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Justice done at Celtic Park



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Published Date: 20 January 2008
CELTIC 1
Corrigan og 62

KILMARNOCK 0
CELTIC'S bid to retain the championship was kept alive thanks to an own goal from Martyn Corrigan at Parkhead yesterday. The champions had enough chances to win comfortably but found goalkeeper Alan Combe in superb form, while the Kilmarnock defence
was of the stonewall variety.

It would have been a travesty of justice if Kilmarnock had taken anything from this game as they defended resolutely for most of the match, only deigning to press forward after they went behind. It is difficult to recall the visitors creating a clear-cut chance.

"I thought we played really well and to make that number of chances was more than I could expect," said Celtic manager Gordon Strachan. "Artur Boruc could have been sitting with me."

He was forced to reshuffle his side early when both Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink and Andreas Hinkel retired hurt. In the former's case it was because of a gaping head wound including a burst blood vessel received in an accidental clash with Kilmarnock centre-back Simon Ford's "head of steel", as his manager Jim Jefferies termed it. The Dutchman had five stitches inserted and was refused permission to return by the club doctor because of the worrying amount of blood he had lost. The German right-back came off with a thigh strain but had been suffering from the ubiquitous winter sickness virus.

With Derek Riordan on for Hinkel, Paul Hartley showed his versatility by switching to right back from left midfield, while Chris Killen replaced Vennegoor of Hesselink up front. Perhaps people will believe Strachan now when he says he needs every player on Celtic's books.

The champions went on to dominate the first half totally – Kilmarnock did not have a shot on target. There is no mystery as to why Celtic did not score. Combe saw to that, just as he did on the opening day of the season when earning his side a goalless draw at the same venue.

His first quite excellent save was after just 12 minutes when Scott McDonald cut in from the left, jinked by two defenders and unleashed a fierce low shot which Combe dived to tip round the post. In the 21st minute, the proverbial goalmouth stramash ended with Combe instinctively parrying away McDonald's close-range effort, before saving a similar attempt from Killen.

Had Scott Brown connected with Shunsuke Nakamura's bullet cross, Combe could have done nothing about it, but he wasn't too troubled by Killen's 30-yard shot and, though beaten by McDonald's 28th-minute effort from a tight angle, the ball ended up in the side netting.

Combe's best save came from an outrageous effort in 32 minutes by Riordan. The former Hibs player attempted to chip the ball over Combe from outside the penalty box, and the goalkeeper only just managed to tip the ball over the bar. Riordan was foiled by Combe again five minutes later, a lung-bursting run and shot from distance bringing out another good save. The half ended with Celtic very much in the ascendancy, and despite brief flurries by Kilmarnock, the second period continued in that vein.

McDonald saw Combe save his shot following a defence-splitting reverse pass from Nakamura before the Australian went down in the box under pressure from Garry Hay and had his name taken by referee Mike McCurry for his remarks after the penalty was correctly not given. Paul Di Giacomo joined McDonald in the book for booting the ball away after the whistle had been blown.

With 62 minutes on the clock, Celtic mounted yet another sally down the right wing and Brown's shot across goal was deflected into his own net by the outstretched Corrigan. Combe was livid, as he could see the ball was going safely wide. After the own goal, Kilmarnock came out of their shell and began to play further up the pitch, though never quite presenting a serious threat to Celtic's defence, which in any case looked more solid than of late.

The champions were still by far the more likely looking team, but a shot on the turn by Killen was comfortably held by Combe before Nakamura was off target with a thunderbolt. Kilmarnock pressed more late in the match, and Boruc actually handled the ball twice in a minute, though on neither occasion could it be described as a save as there was just no danger. Riordan may or may not be leaving Parkhead in this transfer window, and if he is he will regret another miss in the dying minutes, his shot whistling just over.

"Alan Combe was brilliant and I'll never know how he is not in the Scotland set-up," said Jefferies afterwards, adding mysteriously: "I do know why it is but I will keep it to myself. But I know it's not about ability." On yesterday's display, whoever becomes the new Scotland manager should give Combe a call as soon as possible.



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  • Last Updated: 20 January 2008 12:54 AM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Celtic FC , Kilmarnock FC
 
1

Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/01/2008 01:41:50
" ..after the penalty was correctly not given."
Yip. And Scot McDONALD'S protest...not the snarling , swearing , hate-filled , crumpled face in your face a la Barry Fergusson...it was more like...you gotta be kiddin' me.

Still , Bazza is allowed to manure on referees wily nilly, whilst Scot McD isn't allowed to be distantly petulant after a strong penalty claim is rejected.

Mabey Scot should snarl and swear like Rangers players do ...follow follow their example. But then that would only have resulted in a deliciously justifiable red card from a McUrrent point of view. Lordy that man really despises Celtic.

Three points despite the best efforts of Mcurrent.As Celtic fans are accutely aware, it's when the title chase is tight that the likes of McURRENT and Andy Ritchie come out the closet. If Celtic win this title it will be in spite of his and other's efforts to do all they can to tilt the table towards Govan.

But I believe that as a result of Celtic's class , resillience, skill and determination , the dark forces of Scottish football, horrified by the prospect of three in a row, shall be overcome.




2

Richardinho,

20/01/2008 01:58:49
Good performance from the Celts. Only a brilliant display from Combe kept the score down.
You just wonder why he doesn't do that every week?
3

Pat the Hat,

Baile an tSaoir 20/01/2008 02:04:24
Three points. Not a lot more to be said. Except that the ball from which Corrigan scored was not going safely wide – Killen was getting ready to knock it in. Oh, wait a minute – maybe the reporter was right after all! lol!

Celtic have three away games on the spin coming up. We'll know a lot more about the destination of the title after that little run, I would imagine.
4

Fayneant,

NZ 20/01/2008 02:07:14
Opening post has a dig at Rangers on a day they were not even playing....!

Nice to know you care so much....!

5

viking nz,

new zealand 20/01/2008 02:19:45
Yea they cant let it go , always have to dig .Wonder if my artic POSTERS will embelish me with their thought on todays game , without refering to rangers its challenging I know , BUT lets make a big effort by the way I am a celtic supporter and a good one not foul mouthed .
6

Fayneant,

NZ 20/01/2008 02:27:56
5 - Is that why you were sent to NZ...? ;-)
7

Raskolnikov,

St Petersburg 20/01/2008 03:26:44
This was a good performance from Celtic. Some of the football at times was a joy. When Brown, Donati and Nakamura are on this form Celtic are almost unstoppable. I say almost, because only a breathtaking performance from Allan Coombe kept the score down. I loved the way the team lifted the crowd, which was due to a more upbeat and fast-moving approach, resulting in a plethora of goal-scoring opportunities and goalmouth incidents. Celtic 16 shots Killie 2 shots. Says it all really.

McCurry is a strange referee, to say the least. In the first-half Celtic won a throw-in. Paul Hartley took it and sent Scott Brown free on the right. McCurry blew his whistle. Now, knowing you cannot be offside from a throw-in, I wondered what the problem could be. He ordered Hartley to re-take the throw-in. It couldn't have been a foul throw, as that would have meant a throw-in to Killie. No, according to Archie McPherson, Hartley had taken the throw-in too quickly.

How in the name of beelzebub can a player take a throw-in too quickly? I know I will be attacked for criticisng the referee while Celtic got the points, but the final outcome doesn't excuse such strange decisions, and you will notice I said 'strange' and not biased or anti-Celtic. I shall let others decide on that one.
8

Raskolnikov,

St Petersburg 20/01/2008 03:28:01
Viking NZ - If you are a Celtic fan, I am Merlin the Happy Pig.
9

Fayneant,

NZ 20/01/2008 04:08:58
7 - Rask (or is it Merlin?) - the day we take Archie's opinions as gospel is the day that civilisation falls into the sea.

I have not seen the incident, but could it have been because he didn't take it form the right place?

Of course, there's always the other possibility - yep that's right, the Very Reverend Mike McCurry might have been trying to prevent Celtic from taking all three points by thwarting their attempts at a quick throw in!


10

KelsoKillie,

Abu Dhabi 20/01/2008 04:19:23
And Gretna won - so a relegation battle looms for Killie. Hopefully a fully fit squad will see them climb back above Hearts and St Mirren - they did OK for a few games after Naisy left.

Goal difference could count at the end so thank goodness for Combes!!
11

Toronto #1 Bear,

the frozen tundra 20/01/2008 04:52:38
I really think that the problem isn't so much that McCurry despises Celtic and Dougal and Brines can't stand to see Rangers win....I'm pretty sure that there might be some small bit of truth to it but the fact of the matter when it comes to referees in Scotland is that the they are f*%#ing crap...period....end of story. Rangers and Celtic both know why it is becoming increasingly harder than ever to entice players of quality to come to Scotland and play...the referees are brutal and they are not even held responsible for their mistakes. Part-timers, accountants, plumbers....what Scotland needs are full time referees that are held accountable for missing 2 stonewall penalties and a goalie hand ball outside the box at Gretna the other day for example and I'm sure that there are plenty of grievances from Celtic fans also...I'm just not so sure that we should always be playing the sectarian ref card all the time, most times is because they just don't have a clue.
12

Finnharp,

Home in bed 20/01/2008 05:03:07
Celtic got the points, its an ugly game but we win. Lets hope ICT can get a we draw or win, the other side of the OF have yet to get a couple of draws, its down to the three OF games, we missed McGeady, I thought 3 of 4 midfielders stayed back to much.
13

Celtic Bhoy,

Carlisle 20/01/2008 07:10:13
My main worry is the amount of chances Celtic are not converting. I know it was a disasterous start with the two players carted off, but we should have a big enough pool to cater.

Anyway three valuable points lets hope Inverness can do us a turn today.

Mon the Hoops!
14

Big Stevie,

Sydneyside 20/01/2008 08:13:16
The Rev McCurrys blatantly biased handling of the game( again) actually galvanised the home support into making the atmosphere the best its been for ages.

Can we have him every week?
15

greengoblin,

20/01/2008 08:27:21
Only 1 point in it now...
16

Swordsman,

Dublin 20/01/2008 08:30:55
As a Hoops fan of 40 odd years,I see paranoia regarding referees as a birthright!
That said,I think that McCurrys' handling of the match and bizarre decision making has more to do with the fact that he is a god botherer and as such, believes that he is right (and righteous)at all times.No OF bias agenda..just a guy who thinks he can do no wrong..We,on the other hand............
17

Keyboard supporter,

20/01/2008 08:42:00
#14 - I'm amazed the likes of yourself are still banging about McCurry. Despite the incessant accusations he didn't cost you the result at Ibrox and having seen last nights game on Setanta, McDonald incident wasn't a penalty as his heavy touch would have meant that without contact, he wouldn't have caught the ball before it went out. His booking for being a wee petulant nark wasn't the worse i've seen.

Don't go down the route of the main protagonists on this board (we all know who they are) as it just such puerile nonsense!
18

The Sheriff,

20/01/2008 08:44:49
Toronto Bear, you make great points about the standard of refereeing in Scotland.

Fayneant,the first poster is not a dig at Rangers it's more directed towards the standard of refs as pointed out by your fellow bear in toronto.

Sure both sides of the old firm can accuse refs of bias for and against each others team,but the reality is that the refs are very poor with their decisions and consistency of.

Two recent examples involving Barry Ferguson where most right minded supporters would agree he should have been sent of at Pittodrie and on wednesday at the gretna game no yellow card for celebrating his goal by going into the Rangers support?Football is an emotional game and the fact that their is no consistency on the booking of players when celebrating a goal by going towards supporters highlights tghe issues we have with refs....personally I don't think any player should be booked for celebrating a goal as long as it does not antagonise the opposition supporters.
19

greengoblin,

20/01/2008 08:52:04
Complaining about the refs in Scotland is about as useful as complaining about the weather.
20

Swordsman,

Dublin 20/01/2008 08:53:58
Sheriff,I agree wholeheartedly with your comment on player goal celebrations...lets face it,after the goal scored,be it a 30 yarder or a tap in,we ALL want to see the scorer go for it (at his own end!)With the possible exception of the boring "Alan Shearer" raised arm celebration,it adds to the excitement of the game...until the killjoys of UEFA/FIFA get involved
21

KingKenny,

20/01/2008 08:57:56
Combe is another great SPL Keeper. I hope next coach think veteran player.

Kilmarnock play not good. but Combe and Defenders have good play this game
22

Dubai in Lagos,

20/01/2008 09:00:08
I don't understand why the officials don't simply get the benefit of video evidence there and then. Maybe let each team have three time outs per game on decisions that they believe are unfair. I also don't buy this bias stuff either. I think it is down to poor training and sometimes unreasonable expectations. It is easy for pundits and fans to criticize decisions once they have had the benefit of countless replays. As far as the incident mentioned by the Sherrif at Pittodrie I assume he means the McCulloch sending off? I only saw the Setanta coverage of that and for the life of me I couldn't figure out who did what. Provan went through a range of comments starting with a knee in the back and then McCulloch lifting his hands. Did anybody produce anything more conclusive? According to the Aberdeen player he thought it was a nothing incident.
23

Swordsman,

Dublin 20/01/2008 09:00:30
Greengoblin...How many guys on here do you think watch players giving it dokey to a ref after a dodgy decision and think to themselves "shut it ya diddy,he'll never change his mind and you are gonna get booked for nothing"?
Why would posters grumbling about poor decisions think that anything will change by bemoaning the same thing here?
24

FAN OF GERRY,

glasgow 20/01/2008 09:04:38
#1 What a bitter and twisted guy you must be. Here we have a fairly minor incident and you go into an anti Rangers rant. Get a life man......
25

greengoblin,

20/01/2008 09:06:15
#22
Barry Ferguson put a hand to the guy's throat and pushed him away.
Not exemplary behaviour from Scotland's captain...
26

Dubai in Lagos,

20/01/2008 09:37:34
25 I remember that. Poor and stupid behaviour from Ferguson who should know better but don't think it would have warranted a sending off.
27

anti--Hun,

fortress Ibrox...ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 20/01/2008 09:39:03
Jim Jeffries should be ashamed of himself. That was the most negative performance from an away side I have ever seen. He played a 9-1 formation and whilst it is common for people to say things like..."it is up to the home side to break the other ones down", I for one think that is a hige cop out.

Football is about entertainment and for him to send out a team to perform like that is an affront to football. Anti-football...move over Rangres, we have a new winner.
28

Dubai in Lagos,

20/01/2008 09:40:54
Any reports on the extent of Hinkel's injury? Has Venegoor made a full recovery from his cut eye?
29

Raskolnikov,

St Petersburg 20/01/2008 09:42:44
#9 - Fayeant - Falls straight into the trap. I really had hoped it wouldn't be one of you guys.

Doh.
30

Pax V,

20/01/2008 10:26:07
greengoblin, 25

Bazza made THREE off the ball assaults on the opposition that day, and was wasnt carded by the Ref.

Scott McD had a moan at the Ref after being upended in the box and was booked with alacrity.

Throughout the game, but particularly in the first half, Kikmarnock players were kicking sh!t outta Celts - but went largely unpunished.

Was this the same Ref who booked SEVEN Celts in the first 80 mins at Hades - whilst booking NIL Gers?

You bet it was!

Fraternal Brother Mikey at his very worst......again.
31

Rouleur,

On ma bike 20/01/2008 10:30:07
Morning gentlemen,

#19 I agree with you, referees are another variable that need to be accepted, just like the poor Scottish weather.

Anyway going to be a squeeky game today in Inverness especially as Craig B is back in the hot seat. However I will take a goal that richochets off Papac's left testicicle if it gives us the win.
32

the boke,

20/01/2008 10:45:19
#1 Three points despite the best efforts of Mcurrent.As Celtic fans are accutely aware!
But I believe that as a result of Celtic's class , resillience, skill and determination!

What an absolute MOPE! The Pee-tics luck boat kicks in again to secure a win, courtacy of an OG (at home) in front of an ever dwindaling RAt-ic support! Bias and class in the same post, only from a MOPE. Its this type of repetative drivel which costs Rangers 3 penalty claims against Killie at Ibrox, 4 against Gretna on Wednesday and 3 recently against Utd.
It all points toward how effective the inTIMidation of the referees is becoming. The more inept the team performance by the Pee-tics the more hysterical the MOPEs become in crying foul (even when they win).
Where was all these crys of bias when "them" were romping home to the title the last two seasons? They realy realy realy realy are PATHETIC!
33

the boke,

20/01/2008 10:53:23
#27 Bhwa Bhwa Kak!
I will absolutely guarantee you that Wags will play a 4-5-1 home and away against Barca. He has no option given the absolute paucity of skill and class in your team. Of course embarassing MOPEs such as yourself will come on to explain that it was actually a 4-3-3 that was kept permanently in your own half and so only resembled a 4-6er. Pee-tics!
34

the boke,

20/01/2008 10:59:02
Looks like £3m "Bluechipper" Stinke Pinke-l is going to make a real difference in the run in then eh? He must have got the nod from Hasselofaname that its like a dance. "you play one game in, five games out, you moan about yer wages and you throw yer fitness down! Thats what its all about. Oh the MOPEy MOPEy MOPEEEE!"
35

Teary Ennui,

20/01/2008 11:10:26
#30,

Was this the same ref who, in the last Old Firm game, chalked off a good Rangers goal, turned down a stonewall Rangers penalty claim, didn't send off McDonald for assaulting McGregor off the ball, didn't even book Boruc for assaulting Weir?

You bet it was!
36

the boke,

20/01/2008 11:13:03
#30 Einagrossen Poxen!
Bless you, you got all the way to the last line and "it just popped in there, eh!"
Explain please? Facts please.....pause for succinct reply.......... Ignore! Explain please! Facts please!
Explain................
30 or 40 hr shift today, Inquisator?
Explain..................................
37

Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/01/2008 11:13:20
32,33,34.

You shouldn't tax yourselves about the tactical complexities of taking on Barcelona in the last 16 of the CL.
Your team are simply not up to the requisite standard to compete at that level, so why burden your limited cerebral capacity with how Celtic, the Scottish Champions, might approach so demanding a fixture.
Concentrate on Panathanaikos, and how Walter might line up against them...they are about the standard of Caley Thistle, so you should regard today's match as offering some insight into how Walter might approach the away tie.
Killie were lucky not to get a hammering and Jim Jeffries wasted no time after the match in drawing attention to his goalie's superb form, which kept the scoreline respectable.



38

paulmac,

surrey 20/01/2008 11:23:37
#35

How many times have we got to tell you Teary.....The ref didn't chalk off the goal...

The Linesman did!

As to the other other incidents...if he had seen them...you can bet your bottom dollar he would have...

His performance yesterday was again poor....

Is he not an ex Rangers season ticket holder?
39

paulmac,

surrey 20/01/2008 11:26:03
Any how....but for the superb performance of the Killie keeper....Killie would have been humped by 4 or 5....

40

Dubai in Lagos,

20/01/2008 11:26:54
37 Good luck against Barcelona. They will be a different story from the likes of AC Milan at 12th in the Italian league and 25 points behind the leaders or Benfica at 11 points behind the leaders. You should be more grateful for getting an easy group and having Benfica buy their way past Shaktar.
41

the boke,

20/01/2008 11:28:14
Oh of course how silly. Its not the Pee-tics job to put the ball in the onion bag, its the oppositions goalies responcibility to let the goals flow past him and his team mates to put the ball past him when the RAt-ics are shown to be inept in doing it themselves. Of course how could I have missed it Im in MOPEland!

Have you any idea how easy it is to take the utter pee-hash out of MOPEs like you.
42

sonofcosmos,

glasgow 20/01/2008 11:30:42
sound comfortable victory..which we couldnt do in the first game of the season...
i do look forward to seeing macdonalds booking..it appeared to be for not looking at the ref...
love mark guidis poisoned report in the mail..oh sorry marc...x
43

Dubai in Lagos,

20/01/2008 11:30:43
39 Or in other words the lack of clinical finishing from the Celtic forwards. Has to be good news for Rangers that Celtic strength in depth up front is limited to Killen. Surely a club with the resources of Celtic can do better than that. Or are the resources being set aside to give the PLC boys a bit of a return on their investment?
44

Big Stevie,

Sydneyside 20/01/2008 11:32:33
41

Look at the match stats and you'll see how much Celtic dominated the game and our much maligned defence restricted Killie to almost nothing unlike the Rangers 'Iron Curtain' which needed hope, trust and pixie dust to keep the mighty Gretna out.
45

Teary Ennui,

20/01/2008 11:33:03
#38,

You can tell me that as often as you like. It's still not true. The referee takes the decisions. You just don't understand the basics of the game. What with that and rampant paranoia it's no wonder some of you lot get yourselves in a state.
46

Dubai in Lagos,

20/01/2008 11:33:36
42 Sonofcosmos 1-0 at home is anything but comfortable and I cant believe that the Celtic fans on this list are seriously happy with that result.
47

paulmac,

surrey 20/01/2008 11:35:01
#31...Rouleur

Rangers need to hope they don't go a goal down......they're unable to win a league game when they go behind!
48

Big Stevie,

Sydneyside 20/01/2008 11:36:42
43

Celtics major investors have all agreeed on a dividend re-investment scheme meaning any profits due to them will be invested in the club. Surely you're not criticising Celtic for being financially sound unlike your own club which has to re-value your stadium, a move which is now illegal, in order to keep the club solvent and which is now embarrasing itself with its Disneyland Govan tosh.
49

Dubai in Lagos,

20/01/2008 11:36:59
44 Big Stevie the only match stat that matter is you could only score once despite having major possession. Note that you didn't do any better against Gretna and needed an almost injury time scraped goal to avoid another draw.
50

Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/01/2008 11:37:07
40

Gosh the envy is really getting to you. Lyon are a spent force compared to the team Celtic defeated 4V3 on aggregate the last time we met in the CL.
And Barca ? Well, we'll never know how Rangers might have faired against them as the queen's 11 sat cowering in a corner both home and away.
Stuutgart ? They turned in the worst performance of any German side in the entire history of the CL.
51

Dubai in Lagos,

20/01/2008 11:38:44
47 "Rangers need to hope they don't go a goal down......they're unable to win a league game when they go behind!"
I am a bit baffled with that one.
52

sonofcosmos,

glasgow 20/01/2008 11:40:25
would we have been happier with a 6-0 thrashing..yes... much like you would have prefered not to be hanging on to beat gretna 2-1..but celtic were pretty good yesterday and it was a good sound victory...hey it was only a couple of weeks ago rangers won 2-1 against hearts thanks to a dreadful goalkeeping error..x
53

Teary Ennui,

20/01/2008 11:41:21
"unlike your own club which has to re-value your stadium, a move which is now illegal" (48)

So you reckon no company is now allowed to review the value of its assets regardless of, for example, fluctuations in property prices? What drivel. Independent valuers reassessed the value of Rangers' fixed assets.
54

sonofcosmos,

glasgow 20/01/2008 11:41:48
#49..ultimately the only stat that matters is we won..x
55

Dubai in Lagos,

20/01/2008 11:41:58
48 Big Stevie "your own club which has to re-value your stadium, a move which is now illegal,"
Revaluing assets is now illegal? Where did you get that one from? If your investors are not taking dividends where is the money going? Not on players.
56

Teary Ennui,

20/01/2008 11:44:28
"Gosh the envy is really getting to you. Lyon are a spent force compared to the team Celtic defeated 4V3 on aggregate the last time we met in the CL." (50)

Celtic didn't play Lyon an an aggregate basis. Lyon qualified and Celtic didn't. "Spent force"? Lyon are still top of the French league with a game in hand. Sound familiar?
57

Swordsman,

Dublin 20/01/2008 11:45:48
Lord...So much bitterness and bile from our brothers in sport from across the Clyde (or should that be under the Clyde?)Too much of the hooch last night as the nerves got to you at the prospect of losing that HUGE 4 point leading margin over the weekend?Bears with sore heads,anyone...?As you are all wont to say when anyone of a greenish hue dares to post a point on one of "your" items...why dont you all get lost,and leave the floor to those who want to talk football and not some ridiculous "My Dads' bigger than your Dad"p1sh?
58

paulmac,

surrey 20/01/2008 11:46:36
#45

Bwahahahahah......you don't have a clue kiddo!

So what you're syaing is....wait for it...if the linesman had kept his flag down......honest Mick would still have given offside, even though he couldn't see if he was offside?

The linesman decided he was offside....the ref merely agreed.....due to the fact he did not have the angle to make that decision....

Stop making yersel sound sound desperate.
59

Dubai in Lagos,

20/01/2008 11:46:49
50 Patrick "Lyon are a spent force"
Do you just make this up? Lyon are top of the French league and along with Rangers are the only other team at the top of their league from both groups. As I said you should be grateful for getting an easy group and scraping in to the competition on penalties in the first place.
60

Sportacus,

Sunny Falkirk 20/01/2008 11:47:34
Never ceases to amaze me how much celtic fans display more bile and hatred for Rangers than display their love for ra hoops.

Sad individuals indeed.
altogether now......."Tell all the tims you know...."
61

Dubai in Lagos,

20/01/2008 11:48:55
57 Swordsman "So much bitterness and bile"
what are you talking about?
62

Swordsman,

Dublin 20/01/2008 11:49:39
in a word BOKE.....
63

Swordsman,

Dublin 20/01/2008 11:50:50
I know hes a wind up merchant but its getting TIRESOME? wont you agree..Whichever side you belong to name calling and infantile logic is just plain boring...
64

Pax V,

20/01/2008 11:51:25
Bokey

Thank you for your oft stated assertion that we are the Most Oppressed People Ever.

I appreciate your concern, but I disagree. I think what the Germans did to the Jews was worse.

Still, this small recognition of what has been done to us is reassuring.

God Bless you, Bokey.
65

paulmac,

surrey 20/01/2008 11:52:01
#51...Dubai

In every game this season...Rangers have never won in the league....where the opposition have scored first.

It's a trait that would suggest if ICT score first today...you ain't winning the game.

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Big Stevie,

Sydneyside 20/01/2008 11:54:21
55

The good thing about being a plc is that the clubs acounts are available in their entirety in the public domain. If you want to know hwere the money goes you are but a few clicks away.

The only reason Rangers are competing this year is because they spent relatively big in the summer. This spend was a desperation move by Sir Minty in order that he could slink out the door as a winner. Unfortunately for the rest of you this spend will go straight to Rangers bottom line in the form of increased debt and the effects will be felt in seasons to come.

Celtic on the other hand have a sound business model which can accomodate modest levels of expenditure every year without affecting the debt levels which is getting close to zero.

Rangers may or may not win the league this year but its time Rangers fans realised that until the club can achieve financial stability then Celtic will dominate the Scottish game in the long term.
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68

Swordsman,

Dublin 20/01/2008 11:54:56
Pax V SOOO glad you never used the "H" word there...If so we'd never get back to the matter in hand.Talking of which....
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Pax V,

20/01/2008 11:55:09
Dubia, 61

Bitterness & bile?

Sure it's what RFC was built on!

Its' raison d'etre!
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Rouleur,

On ma bike 20/01/2008 11:55:11
#47 Paul Mac, hmm not thought about that but yeah could be a problem. My concern is that without Kevin Thomson covering Weir and Cuellar looked a little exposed at times versus Gretna. However on the positive side we are looking quite settled so expect Cousin, Burke and McCulloch to start up front. That should give Brewster plenty to think about.
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Teary Ennui,

20/01/2008 11:55:23
"Stop making yersel sound sound desperate" (58)

Now there's irony for you.

The simple fact is the referee takes the decisions. He is not obliged to take the advice of his assistants.

If you reckon McCurry is so keen to help Rangers why didn't he (correctly as it would have tunred out) just award the goal?
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/01/2008 11:55:53
Dubai, it's quite simple really.
If your team sits cowering in a corner in the group stages, you won't make the last 16.
Only those teams with a winning mentality reach the promised land...hiding from the opposition is not a good strategy...had Stutgart not been so dreadful, you wouldn't have even made UEFA.
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Dubai in Lagos,

20/01/2008 11:57:14
65 Paulmac. Well thankfully there haven't been too many games like that to test the theory but I take your point.But on reflection didn't Rangers go behind to the German Champions Stuttgart at Ibrox and come back to win? Sorry theory blown.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/01/2008 11:59:45
Dubai...I think the relavent phrase in Pauls argument is "In the league" hope this clears that up..
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Dubai in Lagos,

20/01/2008 11:59:45
66 Stevie the bad thing about being a PLC is that ultimately investors want a return on their money and this is where profits in Celtic will go.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/01/2008 12:02:07
that should read "relevant"...apologies for the denominational education there ..;@)
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Dubai in Lagos,

20/01/2008 12:03:09
72 Patrick "it's quite simple really.
If your team sits cowering in a corner in the group stages, you won't make the last 16."
I will take that as confirmation that you don't bother reading posts and you are more interested in insults than decent debate. Time to put you on to the "not worth reading list" bye
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Pax V,

20/01/2008 12:04:54
Dubai, 75

Wrong!

Investors hell bent on a return will not invest in a football Club.

We invest in Clubs for our love of the Club and what it stands for. In my case, I invest in CFC for it's proud heritage (charitable care for the poor in east Glasgow) and in the case of RFC investors shamefully laud their appalling history of bigotry and badness.
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Big Stevie,

Sydneyside 20/01/2008 12:05:05
71 Terry

In matters of offside it would have been unprecedented for a linesman looking along the line to be overruled by a ref in a cleary poorer position. Even the good Reverend would have struggled to get away with that.

You see the problem for Murrays Minnions is that every game is live on TV and if their bias becomes too blatant then questions may be asked outside Murrays domain.

Hence the latest MIB tactic of booking Celtic players for their first foul of a game but allowing Rangers players at least 3 or 4 before speaking to them.
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/01/2008 12:06:10
75
The bad thing about being £80M in debt is that your chairman has to go and borrow £50M to pay some of it back.
The bad thing about being in debt to the tune of probably around £35M - £40M is that at some point, it has to be paid back...with interest.
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Big Stevie,

Sydneyside 20/01/2008 12:07:18
75 Dubai

Please read my previous post again. All profits are being re-invested in the club . This was agreed unanimously at a previous AGM. What part of this are you not understanding?????
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Pax V,

20/01/2008 12:07:53
Big Stevie, 79

How many opposition players does Barry Ferguson need to assault off the ball before he gets carded?

Against Aberdeen he assaulted three. No punishment.
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Dubai in Lagos,

20/01/2008 12:09:07
74 Swordsman oh you don't mean the Champions LEAGUE. Sorry need to be more specific. Without getting silly the claim seemed to me to be that Rangers didn't have the bottle to come back in games they went behind. They did against the German champions. And it is easy to slag off Stuttgart but they are still only 11 points behind the leaders in Germany while AC Milan are 25 points behind in their league. Be grateful for the section you got.
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Pax V,

20/01/2008 12:09:12
Patrick, 80

Unless, of course, the Chairman goes out and borrows an additional £700M to improve the Stadium!!!
85

Big Stevie,

Sydneyside 20/01/2008 12:10:25
82 Pax

Exactly mate. Scotty Mac gets booked yesterday for shaking his head at the ref but Captain Fantastic can grab opposition players by the throat without fear of troubling the refs notebook.
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Pax V,

20/01/2008 12:12:37
Big Stevie, 79

Compare Bazza's THREE assaults with the Alan Thompson red card after gesturing his head in the direction of Peter Lovencheat. Lovencheat did the Rangers thang; threw himself down in agony, writhing in abject pain...when there had been little\no contact.

I reckon it's high time CFC got more requiring of the Scottish Football Authorities. Demand fairness.
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Teary Ennui,

20/01/2008 12:14:12
#79,

It's far from unprecendented for referees to decline to take the advice of their assistants, including in the situation you describe.

But too many Celtic fans have a pathological need to believe a referee, especially Mr McCurry, couldn't make a wrong decision that went against Rangers. It's a form of sectarianism - and this is made all too clear in the way Mr McCurry's religion is brought up.
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Teary Ennui,

20/01/2008 12:15:34
"Captain Fantastic can grab opposition players by the throat without fear of troubling the refs notebook". (85)

Same with Artur Boruc in the last Old Firm game - refereed by Mr McCurry of course.
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/01/2008 12:15:56
87
Incomprehensible!
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Dubai in Lagos,

20/01/2008 12:16:03
81 Big Stevie the bit where you are trying to claim that PLCs don't ultimately have a duty to pay dividends. BTW any decision taken at an AGM can be reversed. This is why many football teams do not go down the PLC route since anybody can buy shares on the market, get a majority and do what they like. Dont suppose you heard about the Glaziers and Man Utd. Did the Man U fans want that to happen? No don't think so. Might buy a few shares in Celtic myself and demand a divi.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/01/2008 12:17:01
Dubai in Lagos (I hope you arent a Geography teacher!)Apologies if you thought I was being facetious,but was only trying to clarify the point that was made...
Yours
In Dublin,
Indonesia
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Sportacus,

Falkirk 20/01/2008 12:19:17
All referees/linesmen and the people who run the SFA/League are masonic, orange anti-celtic/anti-catholic bigots. That's why celtic have NEVER won a single trophy in Scotland in the their 120 year history.
Perhaps the authorities should just give celtic the 3 trophies on offer for their display cabinet, after all Celtic NEVER lose without dubious cirumstances so what is the point.
Paranoid, bigotted and racist, that's yer average sellik fan.
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Dubai in Lagos,

20/01/2008 12:22:14
86 Pax "Compare Bazza's THREE assaults with the Alan Thompson red card after gesturing his head in the direction of Peter Lovencheat." don't think you can mention cheating without giving some credit to Petrov and Nakamura the undisputed masters.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/01/2008 12:22:37
Wouldn't it be fun if we ALL posted as Sporticus? I'm Sporticus! NO! I'm Sporticus!etc Would be boring after a while but better than the reading his dull diatribe.
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Pax V,

20/01/2008 12:23:49
Sportacus, 92

Oh dear dear dear...some truly bizarre claims there.

The anti Celtic bias has been well established.

Cite 1: SFA actions to remove the Irish flag over Celtic Park, threatening closure.
Cite 2: no action to stop decades of anti Catholic bigotry at RFC.
Cite 3: the Farry affair - clear anti Celtic bias was proven.
Cite 4: the current SFA Chief Exec openly admits he saw children from Catholic Schools as "the enemy" and described efforts to stop RFC bigotry and badness as "an agenda" against Rangers.

It's got to stop.
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Dubai in Lagos,

20/01/2008 12:26:35
91 Swordsman. No. Geography is clearly not my strong point. Off to have my lunch. Have a nice day (wherever you are. )
97

Pax V,

20/01/2008 12:27:06
Dubai, 93

Oh, I'm not arguing that Lovencheat had a monopoly on cheating.

No, my case is that Bazza assaulted THREE opposition players off the ball in one game and went unpunished.

The Ref let him off. The Authorities saw it on TV and did nothing about it either.

Compare contrast with the Alan Thompson case. Little\no contact - red card.

Please explain.
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Teary Ennui,

20/01/2008 12:30:03
#95,

Why did the supposedly pro-Rangers SFA ban one of Rangers' greatest-ever players (Willie Woodburn) without limit of time?

Why did the supposedly pro-Rangers SFA risk prejudicing the trial of Rangers' Duncan Ferguson by suspending him (for twelve matches!), with Ferguson ending up in jail?

Why did the supposedly pro-Rangers SFA ban Rangers' Gregor Stevens for no less than six months after he was sent off - in a friendly?

Why has the supposedly pro-Rangers SFA subjected more players from Rangers to trial by video than from any other club?

Why did the supposedly pro-Rangers SFA punish Graeme Souness for breaking a touchline ban using TV evidence, which was inadmissible at the time (then claim that a supervisor saw the incident from the stand - when Souness couldn't be seen from there)?

Why did the supposedly pro-Rangers SFA refuse to postpone a match when Rangers produced around two dozen medical certificates?

Why has the supposedly pro-Rangers SFA consistently favoured Hampden over five-star Ibrox for European finals?

Why did the supposedly anti-RC, anti-Celtic SFA let the RC Jack McGinn remain as President after he no longer had any official connection with his member club, namely Celtic?

And so on.