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Summer 'bloodbath' looms for leaderless Labour party in Scotland



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Published Date: 29 June 2008
SCOTTISH Labour faces a "bloodbath" this summer as leading figures in the devastated and divided party battle each other to succeed Wendy Alexander as leader.
Her shock resignation yesterday launched a leadership campaign that insiders warn will expose the bitter splits among parliamentarians and activists that have been brewing in the months since Labour lost control of Holyrood.

Westminster sources
said Labour MPs will demand that the new Holyrood leader scraps support for an independence referendum, insisting that the party returns to a strongly Unionist line. But many MSPs are calling for the new leader to be given complete authority over the Scottish party, to silence SNP claims that they have to bow to the party's London HQ.


Scotland on Sunday understands that Gordon Brown will, for the first time, refrain from backing any candidate for the top job at Holyrood, a sign that he fears his endorsement might increase tensions in his already fractious party.

East Lothian MSP Iain Gray is set to be the first to declare that he will stand for the leadership vacancy. Former health minister Andy Kerr is expected to join him, while Labour MSP Margaret Curran and deputy leader Cathy Jamieson are considering their positions.

Alexander announced her resignation in Glasgow yesterday morning, following the Scottish Parliament Standards Committee's decision to suspend her for a day after finding she had broken parliamentary rules by failing to register donations she had received in her election campaign last year.

She issued a fierce attack against the committee, chaired by a Nationalist MSP, claiming that there had been a breach of "natural justice" and describing it as a "partisan decision". But the SNP said that Alexander, who remains an MSP, had only her party to blame.

The affair which led to her resignation began nine months ago, when she admitted receiving an illegal £950 donation from a businessman based in Jersey. Dr Jim Dyer, Holyrood's standards commissioner, last week concluded that Alexander should have placed the donations on the register. The Standards Committee then backed his decision.

Alexander is understood to have decided on Friday that she wanted to quit, after realising that the affair would drag on through the summer. She has told friends that she would not have resigned had the Parliament voted the measure down last week. The committee's conclusions were not voted on because the Parliament went into summer recess immediately after the committee reported back.

Senior Labour figures say that the forthcoming election campaign is set to expose the infighting between the party's MPs and MSPs. "It will be a complete bloodbath," said one senior source.

Another MSP added: "The MPs will want a figure who is strongly Unionist, but we just feel that will kill us in Scotland."

Gray and Kerr were emerging as the front runners in the race to take on the job last night.

Gray is expected to run his campaign as a party 'unifier', pointing to his experience as an MSP and as a senior aide at Westminster. While Brown will stay out of the contest, his campaign is likely to be backed by other senior party figures at Westminster, including Chancellor Alistair Darling, for whom he used to work. A sceptic of Alexander's referendum strategy, it is also likely that Gray will adopt a far more cautious approach to the referendum strategy.

Senior sources said Kerr would "undoubtedly" throw his hat in the ring this week, claiming he had been building up support for a leadership campaign from business people in East Kilbride.

In a statement at John Smith House in Glasgow yesterday, Alexander said: "My pursuers have sought the prize of political victory with little thought to the standing of the Parliament. Some may feel they have achieved a political victory, but wiser heads will surely question: 'at what price?'"

She went on: "It is clear that vexatious complaints will continue to dominate the headlines as long as I remain Labour's Scottish parliamentary leader."

A source close to First Minister Alex Salmond hit back: "The only organisation that has been damaged by Wendy Alexander's resignation is the Labour Party."

Nicola Sturgeon, the SNP's deputy leader, said: "Decay from within is characteristic of the decline of the New Labour project, and Wendy Alexander's resignation is a symptom of this wider malaise."

In a further blow for Labour, it emerged yesterday that Glasgow East MP David Marshall was stepping down on health grounds. Although the 67-year-old has a 13,507 majority, the party fears another drubbing at the polls. "There is nowhere in Scotland that we want to fight an election at the moment," said a Labour source.

It was reported last night that a number of significant Labour donors had described Gordon Brown as not up to the job and accused him of mishandling the credit crunch.





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29/06/2008 00:13:20
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Traquir , Alba,

29/06/2008 00:34:35
Well good riddance, let's move on, this Woman
has had much more press space than she ever merited.

Getting back to real politics
it sounds like Scottish by-election woes
are piling up for Maggie Broon.

"the SNP was preparing for a by-election because a Scottish Labour MP was ill."

And guess what it is NOT Glasgow
East MP David Marshall :)

see - tinyurl.com/4lsfow & tinyurl.com/4kf34m

In terms of the David Marshall by-election
we should start to leverage and
hone our collective Cybernat talents to
prepare the ground work for an SNP
victory. One good starting point will be
to have somebody pop down to Borders
book store in Glasgow's West End
and get a copy of "Halls of Infamy by James MacDonald. The book contains allegations
of yet more Labour sleaze and it
focuses on Glasgow City Hall which is
trying to actively ban the book
see - tinyurl.com/62zol5
The fact that a favorite Labour candidate
for David Marshall's seat is the
Glasgow City Hall Councillor George Ryan
from Ward 19 Shettleston, would make
the Halls of Infamy particularly topical.

Scottish Labour have disgraced Scotland
for way too long and need to be removed
from the political landscape so that
Scotland can prosper as a nation in her
own right. The fact that they are
now officially certified as a bunch
of loonies in addition to being
incompetent and mired in sleaze just
makes it all the more urgent to have
them committed and carried off sooner
rather than later.

Saor Alba
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Traquir , Alba,

29/06/2008 00:34:58
What could be more sweet than a couple
of Scottish MP by-election wins for
the SNP ? Well how about a defection that
would work :) How about this one previously
predicted by the impressive
and very reliable
Scottish journalist Paul Hutcheon.
Quite likely all that he got wrong was
the timing and likely now would be
the perfect time before the Labour
ship sinks completely.

"Labour MP poised for defection to SNP POLITICS: SECRET TALKS"

tinyurl.com/5xz22y
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subrosa,

29/06/2008 00:48:40
According to the Mail on Sunday David Marshall's leaving isn't to do with ill health. Something to do with money...
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a proud doonhamer,

Dumfries 29/06/2008 01:17:33


The laws in question had been introduced by the Labour government at Westminster for reasons it presumably considered important enough to justify new legislation. It is a bit rich to plead persecution when that legislation is subsequently enforced.

Alexander and her allies go on to suggest that holding politicians responsible for following the laws they themselves introduce will somehow dissuade high-calibre candidates from entering public life. They suggest that calling politicians to account is somehow undermining the authority and public standing of the parliament itself.

This newspaper believes the opposite is the case. Since our first edition in 1999 we have been vociferous supporters of devolution and of Holyrood. We remain so. Indeed we would argue for more powers for the Scottish parliament and people.

But if Holyrood is to earn and deserve the respect of the public, it must operate within the law and do so with the utmost transparency. It is part of the media's responsibility to monitor the actions of politicians and to expose wrongdoing wherever it occurs. It is not part of the media's job to turn a blind eye to breaches of the law for fear of creating public cynicism about politics.

Alexander is right in one respect. The publicity surrounding her actions has diverted attention away from many serious problems afflicting the lives of people in Scotland. If politicians are serious about restoring that balance, the answer is simple: don't break the law.


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McGinty,

29/06/2008 01:22:03
Bring back Henry
10

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 01:23:28

Shame Wendy was the sacrifice, I quite liked her,...

'Stances'

It is all a,...'Hype' with Political undertones and,..

'Political correctness' to enable a 'Win' at the next Election!
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a proud doonhamer,

Dumfries 29/06/2008 01:34:34
As no comments are allowed on the other stories about the fall of Bendy Wendy, I ask all to take a few seconds to show our respects for the Hootsman journos who are working on this file. It must be a hard task to type with tears running down your face and dropping on the keyboard. You made a game attempt to keep the wee lass but in the end, justice was done.

And look on the bright side, Simon Pia is looking for work and might return to the business.

Now, stop wailing, you will wake up the bairns, I said it was on the bright side... DON'T YOU AGREE?
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a proud doonhamer,

Dumfries 29/06/2008 01:36:16
The Cyber Committee to elect Foulkes is organizing at this very moment. All those who support our illustrious George, signify immediately
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Marky Bhoy,

Dunfermline 29/06/2008 01:44:09

Wendy was inept as Labour leader but she was stabbed in the back by her own party .

Labour has to get more Scotcentric in Hollyrood or they are dead and so is the union
( Not that I am bothered )
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Traquir , Alba,

29/06/2008 01:49:45
14 a proud doonhamer,

"The Cyber Committee to elect Foulkes is organizing at this very moment. All those who support our illustrious George, signify immediately"

I am a charter member of the campaign to get
Baron Zebedee elected to his birth-right
position as head of the Scottish Labour Party,
ideally with Jackie Baillie as his
deputy. My fingers are crossed in anticipation,
don't disappoint me in your campaign
proud doonhamer :)
15

Paul Mack,

Mandela Towers, Hades, Paisley 29/06/2008 01:53:13
On the same day as the Father of Scottish Independence, James Bond, was sitting in the gallery watching Sister Wendy feign illness, the body politic, despite its myriad of imperfections, decided enough was enough. I thought that some headline writer would go for, 'Mish Moneypenny No More', but I suppose I can't have it all my own way. I'll resist the temptation to tell you, I told you so.
When the history of the nation is being written a hundred years from now, this episode will parallel in causality and importance the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, inexecribaly leading to the complete separation of Scotland from the rest of the Union.
A political party born in Scotland has been run, for the past twenty years by spivs, shysters, parvenus and vacuous lightweights.
The real crime here, which has still gone unnoticed, is that the Alexander sisters and their ilk see nothing wrong in going cap in hand to donors, who the Labour Party would have run a mile from a generation ago. We would have been better of with Tom and Jack. At least they keep a dignified silence when the pantomime season is concluded.
A party which considered among it's number George Bernard Shaw, Maynard Keynes, Nye Bevan and Michael Foot is now reduced to Mr & Mrs Balls and Wendy & Dougie Bunny. I honestly don't know whether to laugh or cry. They all represent constituencies where families have not seen a job in three generations yet they continue to feather their nests in a way that is not only incestuous but disdainful of those they represent.
I've spent the last three months in the States and watched Hillary Clinton get up at 5 o'clock every morning and not retire sometimes to 2.00 a.m the next day.
Despite what many would consider her privileged background she's managed to connect with blue collar workers in way the sisterhood in the Scottish Labour Party can only dream of. And her and Chelsea done it in 4" Jimmy Choos.
"Labour MSP Margaret Curran and deputy leader Ca
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Paul Mack,

Paisley 29/06/2008 01:55:15
"Labour MSP Margaret Curran and deputy leader Cathy Jamieson are considering their positions".

Don't make me laugh.


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Raj Persaud's ghost writer,

29/06/2008 02:09:51
#17 - paul mack. Well said. Labour have kep t their voters in poverty to ensure their reason for being. Their MPs and councillors have got fat at the trough of expectant succession.

They follow the party not their core belief or whats right. They should try a bit of doing whats right for the people instead of blindly following a party taken over by tories looking for a vehicle.



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Graeme Thomson,

Glasgow 29/06/2008 02:31:57
No.17 - nice patter.

Can't believe the state of the Labour Party. It has deserted its roots for short-term gain and is now paying the price for abandoning its core principles to make itself electable in Middle England.

The sad thing is Michael Foot would have been elected in 1997 if he had been around instead of Blair.

The Labour Party sold its soul to the devil for a victory that would have come their way anyway given the underlying pendulum-like nature of the British first-past-the-post political system.

Now the Tories will get in at Westminster with the political landscape actually having being shifted way to the right by New Labour.

Good going!
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Traquir , Alba,

29/06/2008 02:35:24
20 Graeme Thomson, Glasgow

You are spot on, and to add further to your point
about first the post.

17th Oct 2007

"Lord Foulkes of Cumnock: I tell my noble friend, the noble Baroness and her colleagues that the introduction of proportional representation in Scotland has been an absolute tragedy. We have seen chaos, confusion and cuts. At local government level, we see the Liberal Democrats in an unholy alliance with the Scottish National Party. Will my noble friend assure us that, because of this experience, we will stick to the tried and tested system of first past the post, which has given us stability in this country for decades and centuries?"

tinyurl.com/378suf

In order to preserve the Union the
Unionistas would rather have their
arch-enemies in power rather than
allow Scotland to be independent.
Clearly the Thatcher years 1979-1990
was just one of these "decades of stability",
which in the Unionist mindset is
a price worth paying. Fundamentally this is
why the Unionists will lose as they
value Scotland so much less than they
do this artificial and way past its
sell by date Union -
Democracy British Style apparently.
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Jock MacSprog,

29/06/2008 02:58:08
dont know what i find more hilarious, labour disentegrating or the Nats gloating over it as if they are somehow different. You are both tax and spend, big government socialists full of jobs for life local polticos with not a clue about the private sector or the real world. With either of you in power, Scotland will continue to descend down the spiral of more gvt jobs, higher taxes, bigger governement, less growth, more regulation, fewer new businesses, etc etc. We are the sick man of Europe, yet all you socialists, SNP, Labour and Lib Dems can only fiddle as Rome burns.
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Graeme Thomson,

Glasgow 29/06/2008 02:58:22
21 Traquir, Alba

Lord Foulkes comments say it all.

But I feel I have to qualify your next point somewhat.

The Tories used to be Labour's political and ideological arch-enemies.

Now they are just political enemies squabbling over marginal seats.

They are no longer fighting over fundamental ideas about the nature and aim of democratic societies.

That war has been lost by New Labour - well not so much a war, more a capitulation on one side of the argument.

The SNP are now Labour's only real ideological arch-enemies.


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Jwil,

29/06/2008 03:03:30
Its a bit rich for Wendy to talk about vexatious complaints when she was at the front of the baying mob trying to drag Alex Salmond through the mill for the Trump affair and the Aviemore affair.

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Graeme Thomson,

29/06/2008 03:03:49
Jock MacSprog

I do have a clue about the private sector and the real world.

My gas and electricity bills testify to this.

Private utilities focus on shareholders.

Public utilities in these areas can focus on what is actually in the interest of the majority.
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Jwil,

29/06/2008 03:10:24
The last time Iain Gray made a public statement on TV he didn't do too well. I remember the trembling and the sweating. How is he going to do front line politics competently?

I wonder who will appear in question time for Labour on Thusday at Mussleburgh? Will the candidates all be diving for cover? It could be make or break time for the one who appears.

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John PM,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 03:21:30
No comments allowed on the grossly biased peace by Tom Brown about Wendy Alexander.

"Alexander's obvious bitterness at the Holyrood process and the SNP stitch-up is understandable. It is shared by Downing Street, where one Brownite said: "There is cold fury at this style of politics."

The SNP's involvement smacks of vendetta, Holyrood's handling of the affair has left a bad taste and the political impartiality of the Standards Committee is now in question.

For MSPs to rush away on holiday while a major committee was deliberating on an important question requiring the full Parliament's approval, hamstringing Labour through-out the recess, smacked of cynicism."

In fact Wendy was guilty as charged and for her to blame others only shows the self delusion which led her to give herself marks of 10-10 for her own abysmal incompetent performance.

I predict that we will get a new duller Labour leader, step forward Andy Kerr, Jack McConnell mark II (or maybe wee Jack himself will be dug up and resucitated, Malawi could get a new Labourite stooge easily after all but Labour will rightly dread two by-elections!) who will be duly steamrollered by Alex Salmond, no matter how many psychiatrists they get to analyse him (a clear sign of desperation, what's next, astrologists?).

I'll save them some cash, the unionists are on the wrong side of the argument, that is why Salmond is thrashing them at FMQ's, he believes what he says and talks Scotland up, they deliberately talk Scotland down because it suits their political purposes.

The killer blow will now come from Glasgow, history repeats itself, anyone remember Glasgow Govan?

Happy days.
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Castaway,

29/06/2008 03:22:05
It is understood that Gordon Brown will, for the first time, refrain from backing any candidate for the top job at Holyrood, a sign that he fears his endorsement might increase tensions in his already fractious party.
I think it is his fear of voting contests he doesn't want to take a chance that he may endorse a looser unless he can control the ourcome.
He didn't stand for the Labour Party leadership in 1994 because of the rumoured pact with Tony Blair.
Gordon made sure his take over from Tony was unopposed.
He broke the 2005 Labour manifesto on the EU referendum.
He dithered and dithered then finally backed away from holding a Autumn 2007 general election,now the date could be May 2010, last possible date of the GE has to be on or before 3 June 2010.
Gordon Brown has never led his party into any national electoral contest, and does not like the thought of it.
He made sure Wendy was elected unopposed.
He could probably will resign before the next general election because of his virtual dislike of voting contests.
It will interesting to see how he will react during the by-election for Glasgow East.
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John PM,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 03:30:44
Straight from the dead horse's mouth:

Another MSP added: "The MPs will want a figure who is strongly Unionist, but we just feel that will kill us in Scotland."

"There is nowhere in Scotland that we want to fight an election at the moment," said a Labour source.

It was reported last night that a number of significant Labour donors had described Gordon Brown as not up to the job and accused him of mishandling the credit crunch. [but not in the Scotsman eh!]

Wendy's only positive move was her support for a referendum on independence even though she did it for the wrong reasons, it was the right decision.

I anticipate Labour now making a further U-turn and turning their back on any prospects of an independence referendum and showing their true anti Scottish colours. The SNP can then murder this pointless excuse for a political party at the next election.
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2Right,

On Location 29/06/2008 03:43:49
I will committ suicide if the old Injustice Minister Jamieson is put in charge of Scotland.
I just could not stand her incompetence.
Broon will be out on his ear as lets face it who in England is going to vote for a Scot to run their country.
He also has wendy's brother in his party too, Like sister like brother and all that eh.

When are they going to get rid of their speaker who allows his wife to claim us for taxi's, Taxi's to go shoping, we all know what happened to Taxi for McLetchie ?
Do they have one rule for one and another for the bosses ?
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mac1888,

Bute 29/06/2008 03:45:32
What a shambolic list of candidates! LMAO!!!
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Snuffy Ivy,

ABerdeen 29/06/2008 04:01:31
Hmmmm. Alex Salmond having cloak and Dagger secret talks with David Cameron over the precise plan to rid the entire country of New Labour........forever? Labour is truly 'done for' this time!

History in the making in Scotland AND in England!
31

donald,

glasgow 29/06/2008 04:24:35
Eddie, Hammie, Dougie and their meejah bosses in Scotland have an impossible task, trying to spin for Old New Labour. Just look at Labour's gene pool and track record. Only numpties are left to fight for the poisoned, doomed leadership chalice.
32

Wisnaeme,

29/06/2008 04:25:33
So, McCavity Broon is not going to air his preferences on the right kind of candidate for branch office promotion. Nor interfere in anyway whatsoever.

Uh Huh. Aye right. Control freaks does what control freaks do best.

Meantime in Westmidden, quote; "MPs will demand ...... ...... ......"

Apparently, lessons are not being learned by some arrogant folk.
.
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Canada,

Canada 29/06/2008 04:35:22
Wendy must stay!
34

Wisnaeme,

29/06/2008 05:03:16
Dearie me this being against "separateness" and that sort of thing is causing them some grief.

Ah mean to say, how many different sorts of "separatenesses" can one indulge in, whilst being against separateness?

Separateness from the electorate, from reality, from ethical morals and integrity, from competence, from accountability, from hard working families and two year old weans. The list of "separatenesses" apparently are endless and more are joining the queue by the minute. Even their financial supporters and donors are becoming separated from themselves.

Uh Huh, the new buzz wurd is "separateness", right enough. No wonder the Labour numpties were so fearful of it, what with their scaremongering an all.

Apparently, "separateness" eats babies!! Now who would have thought....
.
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cnoc nagers,

Heilans 29/06/2008 05:42:14
A bllodbath may well be an understaement. However much Wendy and Cathy J may want to blame the SNP. They know and we know that most of the stories about Wendy were broken by the newspapers. The current story was broken by the Herald and the complaint by the SNP activist was based on that Herald story and that came from someone in Wendy's inner circle. The SNP were not Wendy's enemies, it was her colleagues. Finally her arrogance turned those closest to her against her and she got what they felt she deserved. Good to see for once a more balanced story from the Scotsman set of newspapers. Unusual but most welcome. Interesting to see how long it lasts.
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cnoc nagers,

Heilans 29/06/2008 06:00:03
And lets not forget that Wendy was still subject to another enquiry about relasing details of the previous standards enquiry which is against Holyrood rules. Her farewell gift should be a plaque for the wall.She could take her pick from

'It wisnae me, mister.'
'The buck stops somewhere, anywhere but here.'
Or she could use the quote by the Edinburgh MSP from yesterday
'Probably the best political brain in Scotland.'

Aye right!

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Castaway,

29/06/2008 06:02:54
Publicly the only way Gordon would endorse a candidate to be the new Holyrood Labour leader is if they are running unopposed or after they are elected.
Privately he will pull the strings, the Scottish Labour MSP's will dance, they will employ ventriloquist's to talk and pretend they are independent of the British Labour Party.
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Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 29/06/2008 06:44:49
Soooo. SNP has now lost one of its main secret weapons.

Even so the contest between SNP and Labour will be like that between East Fife Reserves' reserves, and Brigadoon Infant school. Hardly a battle of worthy giants. Scotland is on the skids because worthwhile people eschew politics. Tragic for us all, and especially the future.
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steve 1511,

aberdeen 29/06/2008 06:56:14
the behaviour of alexander and her cronies with their constant denial of any wrong doing when she has broken the law and the rules go to show how low the labour party morals have sunk,they are a disgrace in holyrood and to the people of scotland who voted for them
40

Traquir , Alba,

29/06/2008 07:49:13
23 Graeme Thomson,Glasgow

Good points, I fully agree.
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Geoff,

sa 29/06/2008 08:02:42
I have read both sides of the donations debate and must say that politicians worldwide have been guilty of far worse-Haliburton and Cheney for example! The SNP and its supporters on these forums as a representative sample, have set themselves up as the party of the squeeky clean. With all yer 'holier than thou' moralising, I hope yous are ready to fall on your swords should such a red-faced occassion arise :)
42

Linda,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 08:03:14
37 is spot on.

Who in the Labour Party dished the dirt on Wendy?

The problem with Labour at Holyrood is that it is their 3rd team with the best (its a relative term) going to Westminster while the gender balance process disqualified half the candidates in most seats.

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Ninian Reid,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 08:05:45
Bloodbath ? But is there any more blood to spill ? Decomposition might have been a better word.
44

Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 29/06/2008 08:08:38
I saw absolutely no evidence of "one of the best political brains in Scotland". What I saw was muddle, fiddle, incompetence &, some would say, fakery (with her appropriately-timed "sore throat" - & an appropriate way to end, some claim, with justification).

Labour have taken Scotland for granted for years, their incompetence & complacency have bitten them in the @rse.

We are now going to be treated to the unedifying sight of Labour fighting like ferrets in a sack over the summer. The sight of a party imploding. Good riddance.
45

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 29/06/2008 08:24:09
Wendy's departure has merely made explicit what was already implicit: Labour has headless in the UK and here for at least a year.
46

elizabeth the first ,

29/06/2008 08:24:33
It amazes me how the holier than thou SNP can have such bigoted supporters,is it not time these bigots were rooted out,and kicked out of the party.
47

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 08:27:54
#46, the sore throat was one of the few convincing things surrounding Wendy over last year or so.

It would have been appropriate for Wendy to have represented Labour in Question Time this week and perhaps that played as large a part in resignation as one day ban. National TV coverage, given Wendys problems (and wisnae ma fault stance) throughout the UK would not be welcome to Gordon and mates in the South.
48

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 08:28:08
As soon as this nest of socialist vipers implodes nd disappears from the political scene the better. It's inherent dishonesty and nepotism is a disgrace. Worse than that, it has made Scotland a nation of dependency junkies for the last half century. Bye Bye Wendy and take the rest of the visionless incompetents with you. That you were ever considered a 'political genius' says a lot about the pygmies that rule us.
49

Alberto.,

29/06/2008 08:31:27


"She issued a fierce attack against the committee, chaired by a Nationalist MSP, claiming that there had been a breach of "natural justice" and describing it as a "partisan decision". But the SNP said that Alexander, who remains an MSP, had only her party to blame!

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Hey! Lass - don't knock it - you are still in ‘the game!’

Surely by now you will have, with all your 'alleged' experience, realise that, as they say ‘Is the way the Cookie crumbles!’

As can be clearly seen, especially nowadays, the ‘game of Politics’ has, seemingly, abandoned Truth, Honesty and Principle and completely forgotten the old well known adage ‘It’s simply Payback time!’ - it happens all the time, all over the place!

Dirty tricks operating in Politics - as you seem to be saying, must surely be considered as 'par for the course' - it certainly appears to be from 'the outside!' - but do not forget, you are still one of the 'well paid' players as a lowly MSP!

To some outsiders that can easily be interpreted as ‘your’ dirty trick!’ on the electorate!

Presumably the Salary, expenses and 'perks', that go with that job, were too tempting to let go in this 'much publicised Resignation' - a title which I have always understood meant 'letting it all go!', but presumably that's only for those with real and sincere devotion to their confidence and abilities!

It seems that all you have done is ‘Moved down the very comfortable bed slightly!’ - sounds more like ‘edging your bets’ than ‘resigning’ - as it is known!

Money - as they say, is the root of all evil - and apparently Politics, very much so it seems, especially these days!

C'est la Vie! - and it seems it ain’t too bad for some!
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waldenman,

East Lothian 29/06/2008 08:34:28
"Gray and Kerr were emerging as the front runners in the race to take on the job last night."
That's like choosing between typhoid or the plague!

Slightly off topic... I think there are two paths which Gordon Brown can follow.
First, he can remain in office for the remainder of his term and pursue a 'scorched earth' policy which the next government will have to deal with.
Or he can resign on the grounds of 'ill health' and, amid much back slapping, be feted as a 'great statesman','iron chancellor' ad infinitum, ad nauseum.
Could a peerage be far behind?
51

brownlie,

29/06/2008 08:35:24
48 Lizzie

Quite right - it is a well-known fact that there are no bigots in any of the unionist parties. When canvassing in your beloved Bearsden we are always amazed that unionists are so tolerant of the views of others - especially minorities.
52

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 08:36:30
What about Wendys "wiser heads" threat in her speech. Seemed to be suggesting some reprisal which could only come from the South, for SNP.
53

mr angry,

ayrshire 29/06/2008 08:37:27
#43 Any politician , SNP or not , who is breaking the law should be jounded out of parliament as soon as possible. There is no room for any abusing of the people's money. They are there to do a job and shoudl be held accountable to th elaw like anybody else.
54

beckypumps1,

Fife 29/06/2008 08:44:20
So even in the end she could not bring herself to admit she was wrong, No shame to the bitter end and I for one will be glad to see the back of her.

So who will be next a teacher, social worker maybe, or do I see the mad baron coming up on the outside. What a shower of self-serving idiots.
55

GrahamH,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 08:44:22
I read yesterday that Labour had requested media not to hound David Marshall due to his ill health.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1030240/Marshall-shock-resignation-rumours-expenses.html

Should there be truth in about to be exposed in link here, you might guess any ill health was stress related.
56

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 08:47:42
#55 Mr Angry

Quite right. I love the way the redirection of public funds for a purpose it's not intended for becomes 'administrative oversight' when it involves a politician. For the rest of us it's good old-fashioned theft or embezzlement. A plague on all of them.
57

Nikostratos,

29/06/2008 09:01:50
#55 mr angry

There would nobody left if they did.
58

Geoff,

sa 29/06/2008 09:04:13
55 Mr. Angry-am on the same page as you here-my comment comes against a distrust of politicians generally. If the SNP can keep their noses clean for any length of time then it will be much to their credit. British political life is pretty harsh on its miscreants. I dont know whether you are familiar with the Cheney-Haliburton story but it makes Wendy Alexanders sins look like naughty kids stuff. Cheneys link as Vice President to Haliburton, a company that was virtually gifted the lucrative contract to supply US troops in Iraq, fighting in a war that was engineered by his pal George Bush is such a blatant example of corruption that my admiration for the Yanks has taken a big knock. As I said Wendys misdeeds are small change and I think there is some truth in her contention that she was hounded out of office. Not that I'm complaining-as a leader of Her Majestys loyal opposition in the scottish Parliament she was no match for AS so whoever suceeds her can only be an improvement-hopefully!
59

Jim P,

29/06/2008 09:15:35

Drivel from Eddie Barnes:
"leading figures in the devastated and divided party battle each other to succeed Wendy Alexander as leader"

Wendy is NOT the leader of the Labour Party in Scotland - Gordon Brown is the leader. Wendy is leader of Labour in the Scottish Parliament.
60

Boy Wonder,

29/06/2008 09:17:40
There are NO Labour MSPs capable of leading the party back into the kind of support they commanded 20 years ago. All the talent has left or been kicked out.

We will have to witness the unedifying spectacle of Labour continuing in its long slow act of Hara Kiri!
61

Col. Blimp­IV*,

29/06/2008 09:18:41
43
Geoff,
sa

The question would be;

Was he raiding the enemy coffers to assist the cause? = hero/fool or foolish hero.

Or looting from the public purse to line his own pockets? = traitor.

Until recently there was little incentive for typeII politicians to join the SNP, hopefully the powers that be are wise to this and most will be weeded out before they can present themselves to local associations for selection.
62

Col. Blimp­IV*,

29/06/2008 09:27:09
Wendy clocked up £17,000 in code 995 donations, to fund the election that never was.

If there is going to be an actual election, with three or four candidates.

Where is the money going to come from this time?
63

elizabeth the first ,

29/06/2008 09:30:26
53. Well hear's a thought,don't canvass in Bearsden,problem solved.
64

Richardinho,

29/06/2008 09:36:29
The sunday Herald editorial encapsulates in a nutshell what I think on the matter. Wendy did break the rules and for that the suspension was right.
The SNP MSPs have done nothing other than what it is their duty to do in calling her to account on it. If you want to detect anything particularly Machiavellian in their actions then they've really simply done the equivalent of chucking a piece of raw meat into a tank of hungry piranhas. What has been exposed is the amount of infighting, chaos and incompetence within the Labour ranks and why currently they are unfit for government.
65

Guga II,

Rockall 29/06/2008 09:39:35
Now that The Mouth of the South has been shafted by her own party, we need a suitable replacement. I would like to suggest to the New Labour Sleaze and Corruption Party (North British Branch) that they elect Forfoulkesake as leader, and Jabba the Hutt as his deputy. They should be of great benefit to Scotland, and the SNP.
66

mrsbruce,

Livingston 29/06/2008 09:39:44
So, Wendy accepted a donation which she had not declared. This was leaked by someone in the Labour Party (after all, how else were we to find out about it).

The donation was then investigated, and she was found to have broken the rules.

Wendy was then punished, but apparently none of it was her fault. It was the fault of the people who wanted the rule breaking investigated.


Mmmm......

I think I'll pop down to the local shop, nick a few things, and when the case comes up, I'll tell the Sherriff it is all the shopkeepers fault for 'hounding' me, and against 'natural' law.

Do you think he'll wear it?
67

bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 09:39:48
Imagine the ignomy of being a candidate for the new nu labourite leader of the Scottish Parish branch, and being defeated by one of the other balloons said to be in the running.

68

Col. Blimp­IV*,

29/06/2008 09:40:21
Come to think of it!

This election is for the Leadership of the Labour MSP's in Holyrood...Who is entitled to a vote?

Only the MSP's?.

If so, Would a hustings meeting, 50 or so photocopied newsletters, some frozen sausage rolls from Iceland and Big carry-out not suffice...£170.oo should be sufficient.
69

MisterN,

Scotland 29/06/2008 09:46:53
Now if Labour were to give Foulkes her job that would round it off nicely.
70

McMillar,

Fife 29/06/2008 09:50:22
Fair enough, tough decision and I thought she could have held on. You have to admire anyone who puts themselves forward to accept a position of leadership especially if the goal is then to lead the Scottish parliament. Easy to comment and knock/criticise but if it was all done with the interest of Scotland at heart then thank you Wendy. I don’t follow the labour party closely and have no idea about the options for succession. However, certainly haven’t seen any obvious choices and given that Wendy was elected quite recently herself I have to assume that all potential candidates were considered at that time. Henry Mc was doing a fine job in the past and is the only one I can see stepping in at the right level. If not him then go for some young blood with decent track record and ideally an earlier career outside of politics. Will be an interesting period but mainly just a distraction on the side while SNP carry on showing they can run things quite well.
71

Rickie,

29/06/2008 09:58:44
Since it seems to be working up the scale of 'donations'.
Harriet got stuffed for a couple of grand, Wendy gets caught out for 17k, when does Broon get his just rewards for the £680,000 (I believe that was the last figure in question) that is questionable to say the least?
72

Mikey,

29/06/2008 10:02:33
Right up until the end, she's complaining that everybody else is to blame! Does she have no shame? Does her party have no shame?

Wendy, you broke the law and that's nothing to do with the SNP, it's all to do with you!

Will Liebore elect a non MSP as leader? Someone like Knowles? Will they admit that nobody in the SP is good enough? Watch this space!
73

brownlie,

29/06/2008 10:03:55
66 Lizzie

Did you think that thought out by yourself. If I stop canvassing how can I ensure that those elected are susceptibe to our unionist's right to "under the radar" donations policies.
74

Ubi,

Edinburgh 29/06/2008 10:05:00
Cathy Jamieson please.
75

Rob,

29/06/2008 10:13:50
I think everyone in Britain will enjoy this - another Brownite pressing the self destruct button. The wrath of the Great Commissar can only be imagined! However, in the real world it's a non event - but a wonderful illustration on how trivial Scottish politics and politicians are
76

MisterN,

Scotland 29/06/2008 10:16:41
Has anybody read that Labour press release badly disguising itself as the story the "the voters speak"?
They are trying to spin the story that the voters cant believe Wendy should have resigned and that nobody knows or cares about the scandals she is neck deep in.
They are trying to spin this resignation as an SNP political witch hunt.
The SNP would love if Wendy stayed and fought the next election like I said before only Labour benefits from Wendys resignation unless of course Foulky steps in.
Can this excuse for a politcal party get any more pathetic?
77

jdships,

29/06/2008 10:26:12
As a non SNP/Labour voter I find this situation very interesting.
On one hand W A lashing out to blame anyone and everyone as being responsible for her demise.
Truth is she brought it on herself and she has been moved to the history books.
On the surface, at least, the SNP as a party appear to have done nothing wrong.
Therefore again this damages WA's crediblity.
As to her successor .
Well ! From the names being put forward as candidates there simply isn't one that I find " inspiring" .
"Tried and found guilty " springs to mind as far as Gray, Kerr, Curran and Jamieson are concerned.
Just can't imagine Labour regaining power in Scotland with one of that four at the helm.

Downhill all the way is a distinct possibility unless SNP shoot themselves in the foot .
Which isn't , I suppose, outwith the bounds of possibility.
With a referendum promised in 2010 there is ,methinks, an interesting couple of years ahead in Scottish politics.!!!!!!
78

MisterN,

Scotland 29/06/2008 10:27:39
Do you believe this sh*t "The voters speak"

"IF WENDY Alexander's decision to fall on her sword has sent shockwaves through Scottish politics, nobody appears to have told the people of Glasgow.



Voters in Scotland's largest city were largely indifferent and many appeared to be unaware of what she was supposed to have done wrong.

There was a lot of vague talk about donations and financial problems, but it seems that most people are too busy to concern themselves with the detailed findings of Holy-rood's standards committee.

"I don't think that most people are bothered one way or another about Wendy Alexander and her election donations," said Sandra Laughlan of Irvine.

But Linda McLaren of Dundee took little joy in Alexander being forced out: "The so-called scandal about expenses is no more than a petty storm in a teacup. I think she made a mistake, but I would like to have seen her fight on. I am not a fan of Alex Salmond and I would have preferred to see Wendy Alexander staying in office and holding him to account."

What a f*cking crock. When we achieve independence one of the first things we should prioritise is the setting up of a free and impartial press and media.
This rag is a disgrace and wouldnt look out of place calling itself The Labour Party Chronicle.
79

MisterN,

Scotland 29/06/2008 10:32:06
81

There is always the possiblity that MI5 may assasinate AS and Swinney takes over that may halt the momentum but apart from that The SNP cabinet would have to get caught attending a devil worshiping human sacrifice coven by the media.
80

eric,

29/06/2008 10:34:36
snigger
81

James.com,

29/06/2008 10:40:56
The Labour Party has infiltrated the Establishment in Scotland over many years and the Media reflects that. It will take time for political positioning to change, but it will, and it is starting. Self preservation and circulation figures will see to it over time. The BBC will be last though!
82

jdships,

29/06/2008 10:42:44
83 MisterN,Scotland

Never forget " seven days is a long time in politics "
Better politicians than A S have been caught out over the years !!

Statements like yours have a happy knack of coming back to haunt you.!!

As I have said many times before did not vote SNP but am more than happy to accept the democratic process and let them prove to me over the four year term that they are the right party to govern this country.
Nothing wrong in that is there ?
83

MisterN,

Scotland 29/06/2008 10:51:48
86

Aye true enough even the smallest most insignificant indiscretion by the SNP can and will be blown out of all proportion by the unionist media which keeps them on their toes I hope?
Actually the more the media hounds them the better behaved they will be. Labour have almost complete control over the press and their behaviour reflects this fact so maybe its a good thing for the media to be on the SNPs case it actually makes them look good.
84

b.allan,

alba 29/06/2008 10:52:38
goodbye and good riddance wendy lawbreaker! Labour: cheats, liars and traitors of Scotland. Her resignation speech showed all of the vitriol and bitterness she has become famous for. What a cheek blaming everyone else for HER misdemeanor!
85

Arn av Gothia,

Gothia 29/06/2008 11:00:26
85 Spot on and thats where Scottish Labour have been for years trying to be part of the "establishment" If they had spent their time trying to help people not getting their media friends to lie to them they would be in better shape today
86

Red Tower,

Dunoon 29/06/2008 11:05:20
As someone who was a Labour supporter for 36 years and quit as a result of the illegal war in Iraq I take a great deal of pleasure from Labour's turmoil. However I would like to see the same happen to the Tories as the bloody intervention into that country could not have taken place without robust Tory support.
87

A Crofter,

Western Isles 29/06/2008 11:07:09
Was Bendy's £950 bung any worse than Stagecoach's £500K (which scuppered SNP's bus regulation plans) or 007's £30K (assuring free life membership of Trumptown Links)?

Time to shut Stonyrood down for good!