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George Burley interview: 'Kris didn't walk out on me, he walked out on the country'



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Published Date: 30 November 2008
GEORGE Burley reveals his take on the Kris Boyd saga and the other obstacles he has faced as Scotland boss
THE PHOTOGRAPHER, Robert Perry, is doing his thing, snapping and chatting and hoping against hope that his patter is going to put his subject at his ease, make him go with the flow a little, to strike a pose he wouldn't normally strike. "Look up, George," he says. And George looks up. "And down." And George looks down. "Look over here. And here. Arms crossed. And uncrossed." George does as he's asked. He's a professional. He's not loving it but he does it, with a smile. "Right, excellent," says Perry. "Come towards me a little. Niiice. Now, how about one where you lunge forward like a cat, growling?"

"What?" says Burley.

"Like a cat. Claws out."

On a list of things Burley is never, ever likely to do, posing as a belligerent moggy ranks up there with running naked around Hampden and taking a subscription to the Daily Record, though not necessarily in that order. (In fact if you were to rank them you'd say he is more likely to do the George Galloway cat thing or the nudey gallop sooner than allowing the Record darken his doorstep.) "Be serious," he says, deadpan, and if you ever wondered about the man's steel then we saw a small flash of it right there. Two words enough to show a tougher side and make Perry The Unembarrassable flinch a little. "You're not liking that idea? That's okay, George. No problem."

IT'S THURSDAY morning and we're in his office at Hampden. Burley has just heard the news about Alan Hutton and he's doing his best to put a brave face on it. But then he's used to that. The loss to Macedonia, the draw with Norway, Kris Boyd, tabloid flak; it's been a rough ride so far, a lot of days trying to sell some positivity when negativity is the only emotion in town. Where to start, where to start? Can we begin with Boyd? Fire away, he says.

"Where did it all go wrong with you two?"

"Everybody wants to play, don't they? But there are times when players have to deal with not playing and Kris felt he couldn't do that."

"Could you see his point? I mean, he didn't get much of a chance to shine under you?"

"I could understand his disappointment but remember, I had Kris in every one of my squads. I said from day one that I wanted committed players. I said reputations and egos are out the window. A player has to be 100% committed. Not 50% or 90% but 100%. Anything less? Step aside."

"There's been talk that he trained poorly before the Norway game, that he didn't impress you at all."

"Well, it's important for players to know that if they look bright and sharp in training then they'll get the opportunity."

"And Boyd wasn't bright and sharp?"

"You look at it, don't you. I pick the team based on what I see in training. You can't please everybody, can you?"

"You liked what you saw in Chris Iwelumo."

"Yeah, he's a leader. He gives you other things. He holds the ball up, you can play it in to him and he'll bring others into the game. Hardly ever loses it in the air. That combination I like. He had eight goals in the Championship before Norway as well. He was flying."

"But he couldn't score from three yards?"

"It was unfortunate. He's a big character and he's bounced back well. He's scored seven times for Wolves since the Norway game. Kris has been scoring, too. Maybe this has helped him, I don't know."

"Were you shocked when he walked?"

"I was disappointed. In the papers the next day. Not great. Players make decisions, but there are professional ways of doing things. Every team I've been in charge of I've had professional players doing things the right way."

"Did you speak to Walter Smith?"

"I did, yeah. Walter's always been terrific. He said he wished the boy had spoken to him earlier. I don't think Walter agreed with him either."

"Ever had a player refuse to play for you before?"

"Not in that manner, no. Actually, it's not that he's not playing for me, it's his country he's not playing for. Who I work for is Scotland. I don't feel I work for the SFA or Gordon Smith or George Peat. I work for my country. I tell the players that. You've come here not to play for me but for your country. It's very important, that, because managers move on, chief executives and presidents move on, but your country remains. Kris didn't walk out on me, he walked out on Scotland. He said he's not going to play for his country as long as I'm manager. I might be here another 10 years. It might be five minutes, but it might be 10 years. Nobody knows. It's not about George Burley or Kris Boyd. It's about Scotland. The Tartan Army spending fortunes, their lives revolving around it, talking about games that happened 25 years ago in incredible detail and how they got there by plane, bus, taxi and canoe. They get there. They always get there. So you give everything you have for them."

Of course, if Burley was being mischievous he could have pointed to Boyd's stats at Rangers to support his views. The striker has not played one single minute for Rangers in the last five Old Firm games. He did not start in 17 out of the 19 games Rangers played in Europe last season. In six Champions League matches he played no part in five of them and appeared for six minutes in the other. Of the last seven games in the UEFA Cup run he played a grand total of four minutes. If Burley didn't use him then he was merely following a precedent long since established by Smith, about whose judgment you will hear precious few gripes.

In Burley's world, though, there are no shortage of snipers. He's made mistakes, sure. His team has not got off to a good start in the campaign but he has been without Barry Ferguson and Hutton, arguably his two best players. Some allowances must be made for that. Two of the three games played have been away. It's not rosy but it's not barren either. And he hasn't deserved the vilification he's received in some quarters.

He's careful about qualifying this. His press coverage as a whole has not been unfair but some of it has been personal and unjustifiable.

"Mark Hateley wrote a thing (in the Record) after the Argentina match and made some of the most stupid comments I've ever heard in all my life. He said I was a puppet of the SFA for agreeing to the game. That's just ridiculous. Ridiculous. It's crazy stuff. Very annoying.

"Look, I'm here to be shot down, okay? That's fair enough. The job comes with criticism. That's fine. But when it gets personal – and it has got personal – then I have a problem with it. When my mother and father are reading it, a man who is 84 years old, it's not nice, not nice at all. You've asked me about it and there you have it. But that's life, isn't it? If anything, that stuff just makes me stronger."

What Hateley said was this…

"Who the hell does he (Burley) think he is kidding? It seems to me as if, rather than work on the shape and formation he'll need to employ in Holland, Burley attempted to appease the fans (against Argentina) by going on the attack. That is another major sign of weakness."

And this…

"Honestly, this was a ludicrous fixture to take on and it worries me that Burley … wasn't strong enough to stand up for himself and tell Gordon Smith and George Peat where to shove it. In fact, it makes me question why this pair appointed such a soft touch in the first place."

And not forgetting this…

"It strikes me now they (the SFA) shirked confrontation when they turned (Graeme) Souness down for the job. And they went for a man who could be manipulated instead. That is a dereliction of duty."

The column was illustrated by an image of Burley as a puppet being dangled on the end of his chief executive's strings. It was barmy stuff, utterly ludicrous, completely lacking in any logic. More than any other title in this country the Record has gone for Burley's jugular and it's been nasty at times.

"The Record's sports editor left me a message the day after (the Hateley piece) to apologise. What can you do? People write things. A guy (working on the same newspaper) had a go before the Macedonia game. Before we had even started the campaign he was criticising me for the way I speak. Totally personal, totally uncalled for. And before we'd even kicked a ball? What he thought he was doing, I don't know, but it was unfair. I think everybody could see that. There's been other things as well but you move on, you forget about it." "Well, let's not move on just yet," I say. "Tell me about Lee McCulloch's retirement, a story broken by your bête noire."

"The McCulloch thing came out of the blue. He hadn't been involved in the squads. He'd been injured, then he made the announcement."

"It was said that he'd retired because of you."

"I don't know about that."

"It was said by your favourite tabloid, post-Boyd, there were other players, one or two, who were thinking of walking out."

"Yeah, that was reported. You know, I spoke to Paul Hartley who I get on tremendously well with. Paul's a player, but he's a friend as well. I spoke to Barry Ferguson about it. They were upset. A press man asked Barry are you thinking about retiring and he was upset. He said 'what kind of a question is that to ask me?' He's a proud Scotsman. Barry came in before the Norway game, jumping up and down desperate to play. In the dressing-room before kick-off. So enthusiastic. I think Rangers would have liked to ease him back in but Barry's so enthusiastic he wants to play, so he played against Argentina. As a manager you have to be totally focused because there are so many niggly things that are said but you have to live with them."

"Have you heard the names that are rumoured to be thinking about retiring?" I ask. "The gossipmongers have it that Kevin Thomson and Allan McGregor may be pondering things but that could be more nonsense, right?"

"Kevin was involved against Northern Ireland and hasn't been involved otherwise so I don't know about that one. He's a good player. Allan played his first full game for Scotland against Argentina and was outstanding. He's been troubled with an injury, had fluid in his knee for the last three or four weeks and he could easily have called off but was keen to play. Actually, I thought he was going to cry off beforehand because Walter had a word with me and said he might, but Allan's thought 'no, I'll get through it' and he did and he played excellently. That's all I can say about that."

He says plenty more. He says that no amount of stick or innuendo is going to distract him from his work, however personal it may get. He says he's honest and he's focused and he's true to his beliefs. Every decision he makes is done for the right reasons, whether it comes off or not. He believes in the players he has and the players he sees coming through. He admires their ability and their desire. He thinks Scotland can qualify for a major championship, maybe this time, maybe next time, definitely some time, hopefully soon. He's a force of positivity in an increasingly negative environment and he's not changing that for anybody.

He's up against it now. He knows he has to prove himself in the job, the very same concept that seemed anathema to Mr Boyd of Ibrox. "We all have to prove ourselves. Every day, every game that's what we're trying to do. It's what we have to do."


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1

sonofcosmos,

glasgow 30/11/2008 00:39:15
just because "big boydie" has many friends in the monkey media cant disguise thye fact that he is red rotten against half decsent teams..Chris Iwelumo has scored more goals in the english championship than boyd has in the inferior spl..yet tools like chick young cant undserstand why hes picked before boyd..d'oh
good interview..and imagine mark hateley..who is on the rangers pay roll.. being critical of burley..!!!
2

dvincent,

30/11/2008 00:42:58
Definetely a striker of limited ability. His goal scoring record is not good when looking at the teams he has scored against. Consistently fails in the "big" games
3

sonofcosmos,

glasgow 30/11/2008 00:48:46
after hearing chick youngs craven post match interview with smith he must have lost any credibility he ever had...xxx
4

dvincent,

30/11/2008 00:53:18
As you hinted, he hasnt had any for a long long time. So funny to hear him bleat though
5

Backofthenet,

30/11/2008 01:06:31
Burley needs to move on from the Boyd business. It was widely agreed that Boyd should at least have been used as a substitute against Norway rather than the debutant Iwelumo (who missed that horrendous sitter) - but it was of course Burley's choice. Burley obviously didn't fancy Boyd as a player anyway, so why Burley has had so much to say about him is a mystery. Burley has had a poor start to the job but has got lucky with qualifying results involving other teams. He should be concentrating fully on cashing in on that luck.
6

sonofcosmos,

glasgow 30/11/2008 01:08:12
nice to see andrew smith did a quick head count of 40'000 to ascertain the crowd at celtic park..what a pilock..what a negative match report..celtic won a potentially difficult game quite comfortably,,..and if certain players had their shooting boots on the result would have been pretty handsome..
7

sonofcosmos,

glasgow 30/11/2008 01:10:26
#5 " Where to start, where to start? Can we begin with Boyd?" glad burley answered..and as ive pointed out iwelumo has a better scoring record in a more difficult league this seasaon..xxx
8

dvincent,

30/11/2008 01:13:42
5

The point isnt if Burley was correct or not in not picking him but the fact that Boyd has turned his back on his country. Plain and simple
9

Far East Arab,

Japan 30/11/2008 01:19:27
8

I totally agree. i think this needs to be put to bed and allow Burley to concentrate on getting Scotland to win. Boyd walked out on Scotland, not the other way about. It doesn't matter how the west coast gutter press spin it, it was the player that walked and its the player who has enforced his absence....I reckon that should be him gone from the Scotland scene now never to return.

The Daily Rangers is so biased its unbelieveable...Mark hateley....WTF are you commenting on Scotland for? What exactly do you know about International management? Stick to wearing garish suits Mark.
10

Backofthenet,

30/11/2008 01:19:36
#6,

Is it a more difficult league? Anyway, as I've pointed out, Iwelumo was an international debutant. But the proof of the pudding (no pun intended) is in the eating - and Iwelumo missed a horrendous sitter. Burley's decision backfired.

By the way, I see David Marshall is unhappy that he didn't get some game time against Argentina and he said nobody, including Burley, really spoke to him about it. So again questions are raised about Burley's man-management.
11

dvincent,

30/11/2008 01:22:45
10

Why does Burley have to explain to Marshall why he isnt playing? He doesnt. Players should respect the mangers decisons and just get on with it instead of whinging.

I'm sure Smith doesnt have to explain every decision he makes to each of the Rangers playes that they affect, so why should Burley.
12

Backofthenet,

30/11/2008 01:23:06
"Boyd has turned his back on his country" (#8)

No he hasn't. He's turned his back on Burley. He has made it clear he'll play under a different manager. I don't agree with Boyd's decision but let's be accurate about what it is.

And let's have a look at how Burley is doing his job in general rather than obsessing about a player Burley didn't rate anyway and indulging in the usual paranoia about the media.
13

dvincent,

30/11/2008 01:25:17
12

Im sorry you cant pick and choose what manager you play for when it comes to your country
. Either you stick at it and try to persuade the manager you should be in or you don't play every again.
14

Backofthenet,

30/11/2008 01:26:14
"Why does Burley have to explain to Marshall why he isnt playing? He doesnt." (#11)

It's not compulsory for him to do so of course but, like I said, it's a question of man-management. It had been widely predicted that Marshall would play half the game and Marshall was certainly hoping that he would. Wouldn't it have been better for Burley to have had a quick chat?
15

Backofthenet,

30/11/2008 01:27:02
"Im sorry you cant pick and choose what manager you play for when it comes to your country" (#13)

I'm sorry but various players in various countries have done it before.
16

dvincent,

30/11/2008 01:27:33
14 - Widely predicted by who? The media? they dont pick the team as much as they would like to. It all comes down to respecting the manager and being professional.
17

dvincent,

30/11/2008 01:27:59
15 - Does that make it right?
18

Backofthenet,

30/11/2008 01:29:26
#17,

That makes it a fact of football life.
19

dvincent,

30/11/2008 01:30:12
18

So we should just shrug our shoulders and allow it to continue when we know it's not right?
20

Backofthenet,

30/11/2008 01:32:17
"It all comes down to respecting the manager and being professional." (#16)

Life just isn't that simple. There's more to managing players than the manager picking the team and thinking "that's that".
21

Backofthenet,

30/11/2008 01:33:47
"So we should just shrug our shoulders and allow it to continue when we know it's not right?" (#19)

We should be realistic, as various professionals within the game have done in the past.
22

dvincent,

30/11/2008 01:33:58
20 - you sound like an apologist for these overpaid, overrated, egotistical players that have helped bring the game to the very poor state it is in today.
23

dvincent,

30/11/2008 01:34:42
21

Get a backbone mate and dont be afraid to criticise when things are wrong.
24

Bleeding Heart...,

30/11/2008 01:35:40
I know one walk that Boyd should have taken.

He should have walked when he elbowed Berra in the second half of yesterday's match.

It wasn't his first offence and he was already on a yellow card.

But two factors intervened: firstly, Dougie McDonald hates Hearts and secondly...well, it was Rangers, wasn't it?
25

dvincent,

30/11/2008 01:36:37
24

Yep. Cant understand how he wasnt sent off today.
26

Backofthenet,

30/11/2008 01:37:34
#22 and #23, you sound like somebody who lives in the world of a 1950s football comic. Mate.
27

dvincent,

30/11/2008 01:38:34
26

oooooohhhhhh. Touched a nerve have I lol. Never be scared of change and what is needed to bring it about.
28

Backofthenet,

30/11/2008 01:39:16
You get that off your calendar?
29

sonofcosmos,

glasgow 30/11/2008 01:40:18
#24 and #25..but dont worry the monkey media will have many column inches and opinion about boyds behaviour just as they did with artur against st mirren..aye right !!!
30

dvincent,

30/11/2008 01:40:42
28

Sorry, a bit high brow for you? would you rather the debate be brought down to the gutter?
31

Backofthenet,

30/11/2008 01:41:33
#30

Surely "up" in your case.
32

dvincent,

30/11/2008 01:41:47
29

I know. Boyd was a right nasty piece of work today. Lost count of how many times he used his elbows in challenges.
33

dvincent,

30/11/2008 01:42:12
31

Very witty retort.
34

dvincent,

30/11/2008 01:42:49
33

Sarcasm in case you missed it lol
35

Finlang,

France 30/11/2008 03:31:59
Hateley is entitled to his opinions, but to employ a fellow union-jack waving Scots media slug is a bridge too far, but all too common. Hateley would do better to concentrate his unintelligent remarks to the English media - but none of them would listen to him. He is a forgotten entity. So ... the Scottish Daily Wrecker is his only outlet. Sad.

For Hateley to slam Burley on account of the Boyd non-event serves to show how bad the Scottish gutter press really is. Hateley is a media (Rangers) dummy. The Scottish gutter press is the basement personified.

Hateley's alleged statements, courtesy of his tabloid ventriloquist's obvious assistance are no more than classic whip-up-the-idiot red-top fodder.

Boyd is a waste of space and a disgrace to our country. Hateley the dimwit has simply disgraced himself in the name of Rangers FC for a few bob extra.

36

Aitchie,

Craig Gordon Stand 30/11/2008 04:13:48
Boyd is gash. Anyone see his free kick against the mighty jambos after about 10 mins? Higher and wider you'll never likely see.

Ferguson and Mendes? Outplayed by Aguiar and Palazuelos. Weir and Brougwho? at the back. Terrible.

Life is sweet today. As a jambo - it will no doubt be sour tomorrow. tick tock tick tock eh?
37

Bareted,

Sydney 30/11/2008 04:45:21
$24,$25
Never mind sent-off, how Smith left him on is beyond me. Most limited footballer I've ever seen. And as for Lafferty and Whittaker, the dollar's not buying much right now, but I'll gladly pay their airfares anywhere away from Govan. Don't know about the famine being over . . . the bloody title is.
38

pelestan,

Alberta,Canada. 30/11/2008 07:45:58
Boyd has started in how many games for Rangers since this began,i think Smith has seen the error of his ways in not including him in many more games..But Burley;s move backfired on him including Iwelumo,against Norway when the country really needed a goal,and then in missing a sitter and what could be the qualifiy goal,for 2012,,,and playing a total of 37 minutes to boot. to the grand total of 28 minutes for Boyd in a total of 6 games.I truly beleive Burley will be gone in 2009....
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jumpship,

Edinburgh 30/11/2008 07:54:05
Rnagers fans having a go at Burley should read this and shut the hell up...........


Boyd's stats at Rangers to support his views. The striker has not played one single minute for Rangers in the last five Old Firm games. He did not start in 17 out of the 19 games Rangers played in Europe last season. In six Champions League matches he played no part in five of them and appeared for six minutes in the other. Of the last seven games in the UEFA Cup run he played a grand total of four minutes.
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GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

30/11/2008 08:00:07
#38 Boyd is a legend only in his own mind and the tiny, fevered minds of Rangers followers. I was at the Hearts game yesterday and if there is a more over-rated, lazy, dirty, cheating, narky, fat, unskillful and just generally annoying footballer in Scotland I haven't come across him. He never scores against the better teams. How many against Celtic and Hearts for example? What about the sitter he missed against Georgia, before being yanked, with the sub then scoring Scotland's winner. Only reason that miss wasn't highlighted by the media like Ilewemo's was that Scotland went on to win the game. And he plays for Rangers obviously.

If that had been Christian Nade fouling and elbowing throughout the game like Boyd, Hearts would have been down to 9 men, not ten. Wallace got booked for his first foul, which led to him being sent off. I stopped counting the number of times Boyd was penalised before eventually getting booked. Same with Whittaker. Then there was McGregor kicking Driver off the ball, no different to what Stewart did when he got sent off. Where was the 4th official or linesman that time?
42

Newton_Invented_Gravity,

30/11/2008 08:26:59
'Burley needs to move on from the Boyd business.'

Good, so you're happy that boyd never plays for Scotland again.
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Newton_Invented_Gravity,

30/11/2008 08:29:15
Novo, Boyd and Weir could all have walked for various fouls yesterday, yet no talk of a 'refereeing crisis' today. How strange.
44

AndyBhoy,

Vancouver Canada 30/11/2008 08:36:43
"but he has been without Barry Ferguson and Hutton, arguably his two best players" I don't know who Tom English is wanting to argue with but a stupid statement like this would be sure to start one. Surely Broadfoot is the most talent Ibrox player turning up for Scotland ?
45

Jambo Dave,

Edinburgh 30/11/2008 08:58:23
38/Smith has seen the errors by not picking Boyd more often.How many points are you behind Celtic?I think he would be better trying Laffer boy upfront and prove he has spent your money well.
As for the game yesterday Hearts looked like they were far more up for it and were by far the better football team and manager.I think the league is over as Celtic have some players who can do something to change a game and Rangers look one paced.
I also must comment on how great it is to see them mummping and moaning there way through a game as per usual and the look on there wee faces when the expected result dose not go there way.Great fun.
So BTO. this is what you were told last week about how great it is to support a wee diddy team and how much fun it is to stick it up the (big) teams,a bit like Rangers getting a result against Celtic!
Well done to Csaba and the team.
JT for life.
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Newton_Invented_Gravity,

30/11/2008 09:14:48
#46 So blind to all Boyd's elbows flying around are you?
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Newton_Invented_Gravity,

30/11/2008 09:36:00
I didn't see the Record piece, but it sounds appalling. It's important to rememeber that Hateley is essentially the voice of David Murray in the media. When things like that are published, it's a sign that rangers fc have declared war on Scotland.
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30/11/2008 09:37:57
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30/11/2008 09:49:16
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jerrymanders,

30/11/2008 10:16:19
Well done Hearts I'm pretty certain you'll finish 2nd again.
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Johnny Jambo,

30/11/2008 10:40:02
Kris Boyd stated he did not want to play for Scotland under Burley, however you wrap it up He has walked away from Scotland.
Any player who wants to play for his country will accept getting into the squad and only playing a bit part. He decided that he was better than than and criticised the manager for his decisions, then decided to walk.
He turned his back on Scotland so he lost my respect, I think he is a good player and maybe should be in the team, but the fact that he made the decision means HE walked.

Better players have been called into Scotland squads and not played but they sat it out until they got their chances, he should have done the same.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 30/11/2008 10:50:59
nine was fine..."oh the pain the pain" xxx
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Dark Lochnagar,

Symington 30/11/2008 10:56:17
You are all forgetting the point that Boyd is an ex-killie player wheras Burley is an ex-AYR player and manager. That will be Boyd's problem, regret he never signed for Ayr.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 30/11/2008 10:59:22
as an aside since the sunday herald now lets their sports reporters to write any rubbish with the supporter having no comeback with the removal of the comment facility i do not visit the site other than for a couple of seconds to check this is still the case..i suggest this should be of interest to advertisers....hopefully the scotland on sunday will keep the comments..and to be fair hopefully posters will try to be as "decent" as possible xxx
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invictager,

Kent 30/11/2008 10:59:38
Tim,
Any team that wins so many games in a row deserves all the credit you can give it but a sticky spell will come sooner or later.

I agree Boyd should never be asked back by Scotland but he is better than Burley thinks and I reckon he will prove it against you this term.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 30/11/2008 11:02:36
#58 best comment from the abysmal scott booth (nearing jock brown at his worst..hopefully with the same outcome..)
at 2-1 to hearts he suggested walter smith would be the happier of the managers !!!!
certainly arturs foul at st mirren was shown a few more times than bougerras stamp on driver...funny that xxx
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tenerifetim,

tenerife 30/11/2008 11:04:33
Does this mean celtic supporters can now sing the Rangers Famine song " The League is over why don't you go home?"
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Helter Skelter,

30/11/2008 11:11:50
Mark Hately accusing anyone about being a puppet is a bit like China criticising Turkey's human rights standards.
Hately is a classic laptoployalist , always writing with an eye to what will please minty.

He wrote articles last year around about October in the daily rearranger pouring scorn on the idea of Cousin being sold in the january window...then when the deal with fulham was supposed to be on, it was volteface and Hately was writing about how this was a great bit of business furra rearrangerz...the wind had changed direction, and so did hately.

Burley is off-course absolutely right ...boyd turned his back on his country, and there is no getting away from that.

And when you look at his selection stats as cruelly set out above for all to see, it's easy to see that burley isn't the only manager who doesn't fancy him.
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Newton_Invented_Gravity,

30/11/2008 11:14:32
'When was the last time Celtic played well and deserved tae win a game?
Well Celtic played well against Aalborg you could say that we deserved to win that game. Hell will freeze over before the likes of you would admit that though.
We deserved to win against Inverness because we made more chances, whilst they made very few, particularly in the second half. And most importantly, we scored whilst they didn't.
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I-Mac,

30/11/2008 11:15:46
Those who think Boyd is "gash" or whatever should ask why Burley keeps rambling on about him. And why are they bothered if a "gash" player has fallen out with the Scotland manager?

And why should Burley be talking about what a pundit said weeks ago? Tabloid pundits are paid to be outspoken and controversial (and, in the case of ex-players and the like, if they're not outspoken and controversial enough the paper's staff spices their contributions up a bit).
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tenerifetim,

30/11/2008 11:18:55
#64 nine was finer the first time , sing up!
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 30/11/2008 11:20:57
#66 burley was answering a question...fans are commenting as nearly all of "big boydies" media pals have been poluting the newspapers airwaves etc with undying support for their pal..supporters are pointing out how overrated the player is...
as for outspoken and controversial,..there you have it, the problem with the media they see that as their function..rather than to report entertain and be generally interesting....listen to chick youngs craven interview with smith yesterday...what a sad day for the football fan xxx
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Helter Skelter,

30/11/2008 11:25:02
If the boot was on the other foot, if Celtic had fallen 7 points behind the rearrangerz yesterday , this morning we would ave awoken to screaming headlines and cracked crests.

Laptoployalists would be clambering over one another to see who could stick the boot into strachan the hardest....all those red cards that the rearrangerz got off with yesterday would be analysed in microscopic detail and any links however tenuous between the officials and anyone connected with Celtic past or present would be up in bright lights.

But look around...it's tumbleweed time in the sports pages of scottish sporting media. No fanfare, no questions about whether Smith should go, no cracked crests ....generally not the hysteria that engulfs the back pages whenever Celtic find themselves on the back foot.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 30/11/2008 11:30:50
#69 sadly very true..
interesting stat..kris boyd has only scored 1 goal at tynecastle in his entire career...(probably a penalty !!!)
oh well its better than 1 goal against celtic in his entire career home and away xxx
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30/11/2008 11:33:17
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I-Mac,

30/11/2008 11:33:56
"burley was answering a question" (#68)

A question he could easily have brushed aside. As for the media there has been quite a lot of criticism of Boyd (the rather partial stats in this article have been repeated more than once, for example). There may be a valid criticism that the media spend too much time being outspoken and controversial but that is how it works in general, not just about football. Especially the tabloid press of course. They judge that their readership are attracted by hype and sensation - are they actually wrong?
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30/11/2008 11:34:03
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Helter Skelter,

30/11/2008 11:38:56
I didn't expect a big performance from Celtic yesterday, and I don't know any Celtic fans that did.

Yesterday was always going to be a day to get the boiler suits on and get out there and dig out three points.

And that's what the champions did...and with a clean sheet to boot...you see, that's how you win titles : even when disappointment and exhaustion hang heavy in the air, the team keep their focus and give their fans a win.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 30/11/2008 11:42:15
#72 the "partial stats" are what makes boyds place in both the scotland and rangers teams questionable
and burley has every right to stick up for himself and the players that want to play for scotland..chick young is constantly slagging off iweleno ignoring the fact that he has scored more goals this season than "big boydie" and in an arguably harder league..
billy dodds let slip on bbc scotland that he is really friendly with boyd and talks to him most days..yet he is to give a neutral comment on the situation..they are parasites and as long as they are our game will be run down and hampered..although i can see why sir dave doesnt want to let the lapdogs down as they can turn on you when you remove priviliges..(see peter martin re gordon strachan)
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30/11/2008 11:43:03
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30/11/2008 11:43:51
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Bzzzz,

Edinburgh 30/11/2008 11:44:49
Boyds a traitor simple as that, good riddence. Yesterdays game he pushed, pulled and elbowed his way through the 90mins, a non OF jersey and he would ave been off. Definately the most over rated player in football, I don't ever want to see him in a Scotland jersey again.
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Helter Skelter,

30/11/2008 11:45:08
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If the refs had got it right yesterday, Bougherra, Boyd, Whittaker, Adam and Weir would have been red carded.
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Newton_Invented_Gravity,

30/11/2008 11:45:52
#71 Well done for managing to bring up all your frustration and bitterness and concentrate it into one post. The fact is that Cali are a bit of a bogey team for us, and this was a big match for us. I anticipated a tight, frustrating game. This was a test of character for our bhoys and we passed it with flying colors. Whenever pressure is put on Strachan, he invariably deals with it. Whenever pressure is put on Walter Smith, he usually bottles it.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 30/11/2008 11:48:05
#76 yes the cracks that celtic are easily the best team in the spl..what is you take on the current rangers team..it has the look of the mediocre teams we used to have during the 90's..i guess when kirk broadfoot looks like being your player of the year (and would deserve it) that reinforces my point...sadly due to the lack of critisism given to rangers by their fans (in and out of the media) you believe mendes is brilliant and bougerra is superb etc ..the running down of celtic actually covers the fact celtic have alot of good players..long may it continue...the only game celtic played so poorly they didnt deserve to win was hamilton away..xxx
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Helter Skelter,

30/11/2008 11:48:55
Stamping on an opponents chest as he lies on the ground after upending him in a challenge ...that's just a yellow card furra rearrangerz plerr likesae.
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I-Mac,

30/11/2008 11:56:06
"burley has every right to stick up for himself" (#75)

Burley has already had his say several times - about a player he wasn't picking anyway.

On another point about the media, it is interesting to see Peter Lawwell having a rant at Charlie Nicholas because Nicholas dared to criticise Celtic after the disastrous Aalborg defeat. Lawwell called Nicholas "bitter" and "paranoid" while while simultaneously claiming that ex-Celt and Celtic fan Nicholas "has obviously got a problem with Celtic for some reason". Yes, even the top man at Celtic is suffering from a persecution complex and irony bypass.
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Helter Skelter,

30/11/2008 11:56:20
I think we saw yesterday how discipline is beginning to break down within the rearrangerz camp.

We saw "walter" combusting in interview after they escaped with a 0V0 draw at motherwell a few weeks back, and yesterday it was plain to see that the blind rage of "walter" is filtering through to his players.

The referee bottled out of doing his duty as it would have involved sending 5 rearrangerz players from the field and under the rules would have led to the match being abandoned and I believe the points being awarded to hearts.

There is serious indiscipline ahead...within the rearrangerz camp the pressure is white hot and the players can't handle it.
Referees will have to be strong and make the big decisions and dismiss rearrangerz players as and when their behaviour crosses the line.
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Jakie Rolling,

Hogwash 30/11/2008 11:58:58
#74 Helter

You said:-

"disappointment and exhaustion hang heavy in the air"

On Friday Gordon Strachan said:-

"The boys are fine. I have no problem with them. Training has been excellent. Any time is a good time to play football. To go out and play with good players in front of 60,000 people is brilliant.

It’s a wonderful time to be a footballer and a great time to be the manager of Celtic. In fact, it’s great to be the Celtic manager all the time.”
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 30/11/2008 12:00:58
#84 part of the poor anti celtic press we get is due to the club standing up for itself..unlike murray celtic do not play favourites..we do not have 80% of the media in our pocket !! (listen to youngs craven interview with smith d'oh)
why should has beens like nicholas slag off the club and not expect a response..i can assure you most celtic fans think charlie is a bitter wee man...
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Helter Skelter,

30/11/2008 12:01:15
86

It's called psyching yirsel up ...you should try it some time.
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Helter Skelter,

30/11/2008 12:04:02
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Nicholas was being slagged off by several Celtic fans on these threads after his comments in the wake of aalborg.

He knows what side his bread is buttered on ...it's the laptoplyalists that pay his wages now.
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jerrymanders,

30/11/2008 12:06:31
#77

The hurt you feel is so evident, but be prepared for more. Despite getting knocked out of CL and UEFA we pocket £10-12M because you're not getting a share. You claim Celtic are woeful when your team is in disarray. Yor team constantly slips up, especially on the road. The "best midfield in Britain" cannot operate with Capt Fantastic in it, not that it was that great anyway. Mendes now goes missing in matches. Boydchenko scores, mostly, against the weaker sides and is not trusted in the big games by both club and (ex)country. Laafferty just looks out of his depth and a total waste of money. Bougherat has been found out too. What of Edu, Edu? Aarrunaway? Flockmeister? No money in the transfer window means you are stuck with these players. In fact you might even sell some instead and weaken your squad yet further. However, despite a horrendous run of injuries (which we don't use as an excuse) Celtic just roll the sleeves up and get the win. When all the players are fully fit and with the January transfer window just around the corner things are certainly looking bright over Parkhead way. Hearts are looking ominous for second spot. They are your main rivals.
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Newton_Invented_Gravity,

30/11/2008 12:08:02
#85 Wattie out of desperation is adopting the tactic of sending his team out to kick opponents off the park. He obviously hopes that either referees will be too craven to punish his players, or else he will be able to end up blaming all those 'timmy referees' if it all goes wrong.
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Paulmac2,

surrey 30/11/2008 12:25:43
Morning lads....

So was it Wattie's team or Sally's yesterday?
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Paulmac2,

surrey 30/11/2008 12:28:02
I'm amazed that Rangers finished with 11 players yesterday....

As far as I could see there were at least 3 Rangers players who could easily have walked.....and not one of them did?

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Wullie67,

30/11/2008 12:31:43
It ought to be pointed out The Daily Record's reasons for wanting Souness in charge of Scotland. Souness leaks stories to friendly journalists in return for a favorable press. Burley doesn't. It has nothing to do with the good of The Scotland Team, only talentless journalists and their need for 'exclusives'. How anyone connected with The Daily Record can be employed by the BBC, is criminal.
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Paulmac2,

surrey 30/11/2008 12:31:55
News just in.......

Wattie has now changed Laffatme from being a 2 year project to a 7 year challenge...

It would probably be easier climbing Mount Everest from the inside to be honest...
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Paulmac2,

surrey 30/11/2008 12:34:26
Wattie needs to seek advice from Gordon on how to employ the 4-4-2 approach succesfully....
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Helter Skelter,

30/11/2008 12:35:44
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The laptoployalists laboured like scholars last Sunday over whether Artur should have been sent off for one challenge, and yet there was enough to write an encyclopaedia about the numerous rearrangerz dirty challenges/assaults ....but not a dicky bird from them today...not a murmur of observation about the disgraceful indiscipline from the rearrangerz and the referee's woefully inadequate response to it.