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Hawick - Through the mill



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Published Date: 30 November 2008
HAWICK, built on wool and brought up on rugby, has seen industry and now sporting pride struggle for survival, finds Iain Morrison
NIKKI WALKER may have scored a brace against Canada last week and Scott MacLeod got the all clear from the chemists at UK Sport but these two slivers of good news for two of Hawick's favourite sons provide only a modest silver lining to the dirty black cloud that is currently hovering over the town's rugby club who yesterday fell to the bottom of the league.

Hawick are one of just two clubs never to have played outside the top flight since national leagues were first introduced back in 1973 (Heriot's are the other). Indeed the Borderers won the first five titles outright and were victorious in 10 out of the first 14 years – an astonishing record of success that is unmatched by any side since. More recently the men in green won the league title in 2001 and the treble of league, cup and Border League the following year. However, since those giddy heights the club have usually been found towards the bottom of the Premier One food chain.

It's early days. If you had to put any money on one team in Scotland surviving a relegation dogfight it would be the men from Mansfield and that is exactly what they have on their hands. Last weekend three of the bottom four won their matches, Hawick was the odd man out. They lost badly to Heriot's, the match was tied at half-time but the Borderers ran up the white flag after the break to allow the city slickers to run in six tries. The club's own website had this to say of their performance: "The second half can only be described as the one of the worst displays ever from a Hawick team at Mansfield". These are harsh words but fully justified if club president Donald MacLeod is to be believed.

"There was no spirit, no fight," says MacLeod of that second half. "No one wants to be the first president in the second division and the committee have thought long and hard about what the problem is at the club but it's difficult to put your finger on it."

The big picture problems of Borders towns are well documented. The decline of traditional industries on which they were built, such as knitwear, has all but snuffed out their heartbeat. In an old mill town like Hawick the next generation has little hope of a future. Young men increasingly move to the central belt in search of jobs and tertiary education. Few are then willing to make the long journey up and down the A7 to train twice a week.

But it must be galling for Scotland's most successful side that their own woes arrive at just the time when one of their Border rivals has shown just what can be achieved with a home-grown team. Selkirk have won nine of their 13 fixtures this season, Hawick just two. Mansfield Park clearly has other problems that are peculiar to the club with a lack of first-class players chief amongst them and those they do boast are mostly missing for a variety of reasons.

The club have currently lost the services of their star fly-half Rory Hutton and centre Graham Hogg, who are both away with the Scotland Sevens squad. Their main source of ball at the sidelines, lock Craig Charters, has suffered a shoulder injury and will be out for months rather than weeks, while Graham Scott, the prop who was hitherto famous for missing a match to get a hair perm, is heading overseas.

Another stalwart of the forward pack, Nick MacTaggart, is also absent while he serves a four-week suspension for illegal use of the boot. This is the end result of an incident in which Edinburgh Accies skipper Dan Teague suffered a horrific injury to his face that required 40-odd stitches/staples. The referee was on the spot and saw nothing untoward and, while the Accies flanker may beg to differ, Hawick officials insist that MacTaggart was, at worst, reckless.

The club is going to appeal the decision. This may have something to do with the fact that, in January, a Welshman by the name of Rhys Garfield was sentenced to 15 months in prison for stamping on an opponent's head in a rugby match. His victim's wound only needed 30 stitches. The worry for Hawick is that by not appealing the ban MacTaggart is somehow accepting responsibility and laying himself open to further legal action in the future.

More bizarrely, Hawick have also lost the services of front row forward Greg MacLeod, who walked out of the Mansfield second XV and joined Jed Forest, despite the fact that his father Donald is the Hawick president. This caused a flurry of reports in the tabloids suggesting that the president was at loggerheads with the club coach Jim Hay for not playing his boy, a charge he denies.

"There has been no friction between me and Jim Hay," Donald MacLeod repeatedly insists, perhaps a little too often to be entirely believable. "I am deeply upset about some of the things that have been written recently in the gutter press. Greg felt that he had the ability to play at a higher level and he was asked to join Jed. He made it clear that there were no grudges."

While MacLeod denies any friction between himself and the coach, a recent incident after a match against Watsonians cannot have helped matters as Hay, like so many of his players, has been posted as missing in action.

As the match drew to a close, Hawick were leading until Watsonians hoisted a cross-field kick that led directly to a try. Many at Mansfield thought the winger was a long way offside. The disappointment of seeing hard-earned points going astray thanks to an official's perceived error was too much for the club coach and Hay accosted the referee after the match. Reports vary as to whether the confrontation was physical or just verbal but the net result is that Hay finds himself banned from the touchline at exactly the time his team most need his guidance. Oh, and that ban came from his club, the SRU has still to pass judgment on the matter.

"We didn't want to ban Jim but we got a letter from the SRU advising us to take action," MacLeod says. "We discussed this with Jim and he was quite happy with the three-month ban, it's his third offence. The SRU have still to make their decision and Jim has already made it clear that he is not going to attend the hearing. If that's the case any action they do take will only be 10 times worse. We can only do what we can do. We're damned if we take action and we're damned if we don't."

But it is less clear what action MacLeod can take to halt Hawick's slide into second class rugby. The club has recruited some Fijian imports from the Dreghorn barracks in Edinburgh to bolster the young side but MacLeod makes it clear that he wasn't party to that and places the responsibility firmly at the feet of the coach. For his part, Hay is unable to respond since, along with his touchline ban, he has also been prevented from talking to the press. However friends of the former Scotland hooker make it clear that he is as disillusioned with life at Mansfield as anyone else.

"Jim Hay has been with us for five years," says MacLeod. "Now I'm not saying that he's done his time but perhaps we need an injection of something else to give the club a boost. We are looking at getting some of the past players to put something back into the club because we're not a million miles away. We took six tries off Selkirk and they are sitting in third place and we scored four against Hawks. But we've lost a lot of players – just about every other team in the division fields Hawick players against us and I'm not making any comment on why that should be. I counted the other day that 28 players have left the club, although that includes academy players, in the last 18 months. My son Greg was the 28th to go. Lots of players are unhappy." The president quotes a line from the Hawick song 'Teri-bus': "Aye sunk in deep dejection…" to explain the prevailing mood.

A final word goes to the legendary Hawick player and coach Jim Renwick, whose son Neil is a regular in the club's midfield. "The town is not behind the club like it used to be. When we played in the first ever cup final in 1996 it seemed like half the town was there, but more recently when we played Boroughmuir in the first round there were scarcely more than 200 folk at Mansfield. We need a bit of success to bring back the crowds."

Is second class rugby a real possibility for Scotland's most famous and most successful rugby club after 25 uninterrupted years in the top flight?

"We're in trouble." Renwick's reply does not augur well for the Greens.

GREEN MACHINE

HUE AND CRY


Hawick were formed in December 1873 and first played in blue and white striped jerseys. Two years later they adopted their now famous dark green strip.

LEAGUE OF THEIR OWN

Hawick are Scotland's most successful club side having won the league 12 times since the official championship was introduced in season 1973-74.

HAT-TRICK OF FIRSTS

They boast a proud record of being the first Border League champions in 1901-02, the first official Scottish champions in 1973-74 and the first Scottish Cup winners in 1995-96.

IF THE CAP FITS

Hawick have supplied 58 full Scotland internationals, the latest being David Callam who made his debut in November 2006. Their most capped players are Colin Deans, Jim Renwick and Tony Stanger who each played for Scotland 52 times.

The full article contains 1692 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 29 November 2008 10:00 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
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1

Optimistic supporter,

30/11/2008 01:59:03
No surprises here. Another report from Mr Morrison which suggests the possible downfall of Hawick. This must be at least the third or fourth article he has written on this or a similar subject over the years. Easily money.
Here's hoping the Green Machine turn things around starting next week.
2

Gala Doug,

Capian Sea 30/11/2008 07:15:12
Good luck Hawick, Despite what the hooray Henry's think Scottish rugby needs you at your best.
3

hadden is a cack,

30/11/2008 08:55:26
hawick coach attacks ref
hawick player stands on someone giving him 40 stiches
hawick blame it all on city slickers
so nothing has changed in 30 years
get over it, your going down
what a shame!
4

ConnorD,

30/11/2008 09:19:48
One of the issues as I see is that the very things that used to be the strength of Hawick - the captive audience with reasonably full employment, the ties to the club, the seige mentality - are now beginning to work against them. Players have left the area for work and qualifications but, if you believe some of the clubhouse talk, they have also left because the atmosphere at Mansfield Park is out of step with modern life. Jim Hay may arguably be a committed Robbie Dye but he's way out of touch and some of his outpourings over the last 2 years have been utter nonsense and frankly an embarassment.
Mansfield Park is not a welcoming arena for visitors in the true sense of rugby fraternity and some of the occupants of the stand would be better off doing something else because their behaviour is ruining club rugby. An interesting report in the Sunday Herald on yesterday's defeat at Ayr which would seem to sum up all that is wrong with Hawick - it even suggests they have become a problem club in terms of discipline and this seanson's record would seem to support that.
For the record, I do not wish to see Hawick relegated but no club can live on history alone, they must deal urgently with the issues that have put them there. No-one thougfht that Gala would go all these years ago and the lesson for Hawick must be learned that once you drop it is hard to get back.
5

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30/11/2008 09:28:51
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30/11/2008 09:34:16
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SKEEDLE,

30/11/2008 11:53:44
McLeod NOT MacLeod (GET IT RIGHT AGAIN MORRISON)
8

J.A.,

Gala 30/11/2008 13:47:51
Although Hawick are struggling to keep their place in the in the premier division, we should not kid ourselves that they are a spent force. By far, Hawick is the biggest rugby town in the country and still churn out players to feed into not only their senior team but the senior teams of many city clubs.
Some like #3 would be happy to see the demise of this great club and rugby tradition. I, like many others, are prepared to recognise the immense value Hawick has to Scottish rugby.
Scottish rugby needs them.
9

B.McGeek,

30/11/2008 15:42:18
re the Hawick/Ayr report - as regards to having Pro players Hawick have had the services of 1 for most of the season and 2 academy players (both Hawick boys)Hawick have been desperate for Callum Mcrae to play and then when he did it made not difference (I believe Melrose have not called on their allocated pros to play) are the Hawick contracted players not good enough? Should they have contracts? especially as McNeil can't even make it onto the Edinburgh bench. Hawick are the victim of their own success and have knocked back several good players ie Damien Kelly now starring at Ayr. I see Hutton and Hogg have starred(??) in Dubai in the Scotland 7 losing to Kenya & Zimbabwe, both amateur sides. Hawick do produce high numbers of good players and sadly have lost many over the years to the cities/money, I suspect this will continue to happen especially if Hawick 1sts go down!!! Great to see Hawick junior sides pushing for promotion in their various leagues, somethings not working somewhere!!!
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ConnorD,

30/11/2008 15:54:06
#8 - According to a lad that I work with (can't say who), he left Hawick to go to College then Uni in Edinburgh but he was "threatened" not to play for a city side because he would be seen as a traitor. He was expected to travel all the way to Hawick from Edinburgh twice a week on a student's existence and at training he was treated like a moron.
Nobody in their right mind would put up with that week in week out. Would you? Some of the problem lies at Mansfield Park itself and young lads can see a better life for themselves away from the place. Can you blame them?
11

The Real Truth,

30/11/2008 21:45:03
Its a real shame for hawick but the demise of rugby in the borders has been gradually getting worse since professionalism kicked in. Lets hope that Hawick stay up and keep a rugby tradition going. What is very disappointing are the supporters - I have had many experiences down there as a player and supporter recieving severe abuse from the buffties. Not just banter but some out of order abuse - now I appreciate that it is the small minoriity of supporters but at the end of the day it happens. I am sure many have experienced it - it sure doesn't make you want to go back. You've got to work at success - Hawick seem to just expect it, and when they dont get it - they take a tantrum like a little kid
12

Armageddon,

Fishing Boat in the north Minch 30/11/2008 22:23:03
I am saddened to see Hawick in such dire straights, and the loss of Jim Hay cannot really be good, despite the clamour in some quarters to remove him.

I am a little disturbed at the tone of Mr Morrison's article, why does he have such an axe to continually grind?. Please...no more of the Morrison book of doom.

Great comment from Gala Doug....maybe a Gala man, but a real rugby man, unlike Colin Brett....who if he ever stops refereeing, should look at a career in drama...or the manufacture of mountians from molehill hills. Lets watch good rugby, not the Brett knows best show.



Good luck Hawick, Scottish Rugby will be a poorer place without you in the top flight.
13

malcyh,

30/11/2008 22:29:47
Why does this journalist (if you can call him that) have an axe to grind with Hawick. Perhaps deep down he really wanted to have played for Hawick.
Scottish rugby without Hawick is unthinkable, althought the city slickers will breathe a sigh of relief if they go down, because they still dont relish a game in the borders. Just look at selkirk's record - unbeaten at home since September 2007.

Come on Hawick!
14

Bob Corfield,

Wollongong 01/12/2008 00:19:30
As an outsider, would I be right in assuming that the decline of Borders Rugby and Scotland as a serious top 6 rugby nation are not unrelated?
Go the Souters and best of luck Hawick! Whatever it takes, survive!
15

J.A.,

Gala 01/12/2008 08:43:18
#10 Naturally, lads that are nurtured in Hawick are encouraged to play within their home town. The point I was making is that they develop more players than any other club. Only a few years ago both Hawick PSA and Hawick Wands were in the final of the youth cup. There is no other club with two you teams never mind having the best two in Scotland.
I know that a lot out there don’t like Hawick because they are so competitive both on and off the field; as a Gala man, I have experienced that more than anyone. Don’t knock it!!
16

Dissillusioned Supporter!,

Borders 01/12/2008 11:52:49
Good to see Selkirk doing so well. It is interesting to note however that their success seems to be coming from their team having been settled for a few seasons now, if anything its been added to. They have had no players taken away for the pro set-up (a thanks maybe to the fact the Borders has been disbanded).

Hawick seem to be suffering what has happened to Gala over the past few years - they are producing plenty of talented players, but they are all getting snapped up by a pro academy, or being shipped into a 'better' team. Gala went up to P1 a couple of years ago with a strong side that won P2. Then the coach and quite a few players were snapped up by the Borders, some age-group players were told not to play, some signings just didnt work out and Gala got relegated. Other players were then told to go to another P1 club as part of their pro academy, and the actual pros were allocated to only P1 clubs (rivals like Hawick at that!)
A few years later with retirements and the 'old players leaving the Borders area' issue, some bad luck, having to play a lot of your 2nd/3rds guys, even the u18s and it becomes very hard, eventually Gala were in P3 for the first time ever!

Where is the thank you for producing Pros and Internationalists? Its not there anymore due to the clubs becoming feeder teams to only 2 city pro teams. This is the detruction of club rugby. 14. is correct in saying there must be a link here to the fact that we are now a 3rd tier nation.
17

WA,

01/12/2008 14:37:13
Dissillusioned.

You are correct about Hawick suffering like Gala.

However, is the problem not that the structure for both of them means that the people running them have no direct control over what goes on below them e.g. the Presidents of Hawick and Gala only have direct control over Hawick and Gala RFC NOT the YMs,Harlequins,Linden, Wanderers(s), Albion,Red Triangle, Mini Maroons. These organisations are run separately and they have there own agendas which may or may not always be the same as the senior club therefore causing conflict.

18

J.A.,

01/12/2008 16:10:24
#17
Yes, they could have different agendas. However, both Gala and Hawicks development teams have pretty much dominated Scottish competitions over the past decade so I don't think that their agendas will conflict with that of the senior clubs. Gala YM are now run in tandem with the Gala team and the coaching of these sides are run as one. Although there may be conflicts in Hawick between the varying clubs, I have always seen this as strength and see no reason why it should not still be the case.
19

Armageddon,

Fishing Boat, North Minch 01/12/2008 19:20:00
Would Mr Morrison like to be a real investigative journalist and find out why Gordon McKie is so fiercely anti Borders in general, and anti Hawick in particular?......The grim reaper of Scottish rugby has done great harm to the National side, dont let him do the same to the club game.
20

Greenmachine,

Falkirk 01/12/2008 23:29:39
I cant believe some of the guff and negative press here. Why not look at the facts of the season so far. The league position is down to sheer bad luck.

FACT. 6 Bonus points and most of these were losing ones, dont you get these for losing by less than seven? Oh yes of course you do!!

FACT. These games we could and probably should have won.

FACT. Thats 16 league points chucked away.

FACT. One horribly wrong decision by the aforementioned Mr Brett in the last minute of the Watsonians game cost us 2 very valuable points.

FACT. Thats 18 league points dropped in total that so easily could have been on the board. That would have left us only 5 points behind the team in 3rd and in a very secure position.

FACT. We are bottom... POINTS AGAINST 310..... TEAM IN 3rd POINTS AGAINST 321.

My point here is the very thin dividing line between success and failure in this league on the park, and if things had gone our way none of the utter garb im reading would probably have ever been written. Im not saying for a minute everything is rosy in the garden off the pitch, but on it the guys are not a million miles away. Whatever happens the rest of the season the boys will give their all. 45 points are still to be played for........ I wonder if Mr Morrison will write an article on the demise of Stirling and The Hawks in the near future????? Nah, i dont think so either!!!!!!




21

WA,

02/12/2008 09:01:07
# JA.

There is no doubt the structure in Hawick used to be a strength when EVERYBODY involved with all the clubs were 100% behind Hawick RFC. They ALL saw their main role as a making Hawick RFC the most successful club in Scotland.

Clearly this has changed.

22

J.A.,

02/12/2008 11:47:50
#21
And you know this for as a fact? ....................I didn't think so.
Any club who can produce the players they continue to do should be seen as a shining example on how its done.
23

WA,

02/12/2008 15:41:17
# J.A.

I agree that Hawick are shining examples of how youth rugby should be done but they are failing to carry this on to improve their league position.

With the number of players that play in Hawick and the number of excellent well meaning committee they have , they should not be struggling in division one as they have for the last few years. Even taking account of players who have left Hawick there are should still be enough good resources to be better than their league position shows.

However, whatever is wrong I hope they sort it out as it will be a sad day if they get relegated.
24

Vertish Hill,

ottawa 03/12/2008 03:01:27
20 odd years ago Hawick was the envy of every club in Scotland.They had 4 junior clubs to call on for players in the event of a call off.If they were looking for a scrum half,they had 4 to choose from.If it was a back-row, they had a choice of 12 and so on. These were also hardened players brought up in the Border Junior league where a Linden v Gala YM game was only matched by the full Hawick v Gala encounter.
When the SRU decided to have 2nd XV leagues this meant Hawick and Gala needed 2nd sides at their control and this,I think, led to the demise of the Junior clubs and eventually the Border Junior League.
Hawick still have great age-grade sides,starting with the strong Primary school competitions and ending with the Psa and Wanderers who both boast respected and hard working committees.

Unfortunately, keeping these players in the town when they leave school is proving to be hardest thing to solve. Gone are the days when Alan Tomes used to travel twice a week from Gateshead just to train, and not take a penny in travel expenses. Nowadays it seems that it's easier for clubs to just fly-in an expensive signing from another hemispere!!

 

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