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Warnings of further flood chaos on way



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Published Date:
22 July 2007
SCOTLAND is predicted to escape the torrential rain and floods which have brought chaos to parts of England and Wales.
Helicopter and boat crews yesterday rescued hundreds of people trapped after storms whipped through the south, flooding towns and villages, including Shakespeare's birthplace Stratford-upon-Avon.

Stranded motorists slept overnight in cars

and Scots drivers planning on heading south of the Border are being warned to check conditions before they travel.

Prime Minister Gordon Brown was yesterday liaising with Cabinet colleagues to assess the government's response to the crisis, which left many thousands affected by flooding. The Association of British Insurers estimated damage could run into hundreds of millions of pounds.

Met Office meteorologist Ian Robinson last night predicted the rains would sweep into Scotland by this morning. "The heaviest rain that we will see in Scotland will probably be in the Southern Uplands and across Aberdeenshire and the Grampians," he said.

"But Scotland looks set to escape the worst and we are not expecting to see any repeat of the major problems that we saw in England and Wales."

Robinson predicted that, at worst, one inch of rain would fall over the Grampians and Southern Uplands today - five times less than the amount which fell in the worst-affected parts of England within 24 hours between Friday and yesterday.

The bleak conditions are predicted to continue throughout the week, with the brief exception of Tuesday, which is expected to be dry across the UK.

Sixteen flood warnings are currently in place in England - 13 in the Midlands and three in the East Anglia region.

The Scottish Environment Protection Agency said it had not issued any flood warnings and was not expecting to do so.

Baroness Young, chief executive of the UK Environment Agency, warned that more floods could be on the way in England.

She said: "The rivers are over-topping the flood defences in places and some of the slower-rising rivers like the Severn, the Thames and the Great Ouse will only start to respond as all the water runs into them from the tributaries. They are coming up rapidly, so we could see further flooding even in areas where it is no longer raining."

Young also claimed the extreme rainfall may have been the worst experienced in England for 200 years and suggested climate change may be to blame.

The Highways Agency confirmed that the M5 at Worcester reopened yesterday, but said that parts of the M50 which runs between Gloucestershire, Worcestershire and Herefordshire remained closed.

"We are advising drivers planning to travel to the affected areas to check their route is clear before they set off and to leave extra time for their journeys until conditions return to normal," said spokeswoman Eva Perkins.

Heathrow Airport was forced to cancel 141 flights across the country on Friday, while Luton Airport was described as "virtually cut off" by floodwaters at one point.

But a spokesman for airports operator BAA said all flights from its London airports, including those to Glasgow, Edinburgh and Aberdeen, were now running normally.

Rail services from Scotland to London are also unaffected.

The full article contains 526 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 21 July 2007 10:47 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
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1

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22/07/2007 00:57:11
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2

LyonHearts,

22/07/2007 01:17:11

"The Association of British Insurers estimated damage could run into hundreds of millions of pounds. "

Who cares what the cost is, just get them out to safety and help get their lives back to normal!

Why are we obsessed with cost all the time?

3

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John M,

Melbourne, Australia 22/07/2007 02:24:24

Baroness Young is a fool. Several months ago these rains were predicted to the day - no, not by the Met Office - and the reason has nothing to do with any human influence on climate change.

Expect the rains next month to be even heavier.

5

Scot in Exile,

Adelaide, Australia 22/07/2007 03:30:46

#4 Interesting, John. Who predicted this to the day? Certainly not Michael Fish, that's for sure!

6

Big Nige,

Arizona, USA 22/07/2007 04:18:28

John, tell us your real nme. Is it Noah? Was it god who told you about the rains? Did he also tell you science is nonsense?

7

GalacticCannibal,

22/07/2007 04:46:35

4. John M, Melbourne, Australia
5. Scot in Exile, Adelaide, Australia

Hey Dudes ,
I visited Melbourne and Adelaide earlier this year. What two fanatastic cities they are .

They are up there with San Francisco. But with better weather.
And your beaches are awesome. Best surfing I ever experienced.

Respectfully

Galactic Cannibal

8

Navvy,

22/07/2007 06:29:28

#3

This post demonstrates all that is wrong with many in Scotland

9

mr angry,

ayrshire 22/07/2007 06:39:26

why do these government clowns always chant "globalwarning" if we get some bad weather, may be a bit heavier than normal but nothing compared towhat they regularly get in other countries. Houses etc have been built in the wrong places,its just standard UK weather, you can guarantee they will use "global warming" to get more powers or tax.

10

Comerscroft,

22/07/2007 06:47:17

## 3 ##

Typical 'Little Scotlander' comment.

You should be grateful that Scotland has not been affected, and that more lives have not been lost.

11

Citylocal Fife,

Citylocal Fife News Room 22/07/2007 06:58:31

#3 Please don't be racist - thank you.

It is time that 2 Jags was dragged off the croquet lawn and made to give up his fat pension to repay a little of the money squandered on building on flood plains.

And I wonder who signed off the cheques - good old Greedy Grabbit Gordon !

12

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22/07/2007 07:05:37
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fred bloggs,

22/07/2007 07:20:55

9. Global warming is not mentioned in the article!

14

deek006,

edinburgh 22/07/2007 07:24:15

WHY FLOODING.
MY IDEA IS THAT THEY STARTED METERING WATER CHARGES. SO THE MORE YOU USE THE MORE YOU PAY, SO THE COUNCILS WHERE LEFT WITH MORE THAN THEY CAN SELL.

15

Dickie Bird,

inaweeglasgaebothy 22/07/2007 07:30:10

#9 - good point!!!!

Remember a time (not long ago mind you) politicians denied "global warming"/ climate change existed!!!! Now, a political trump card can be had from using this term for, em, yes, higher taxes.

Indeed, recent flooding demonstrates houses are built in wrong places with natural waterways eroded or non existent due to development.

Just wait til those types of torrential downpours visit Scotland. . not to mention Glasgow! We are done!

#5. . it was Ian McCaskill!!!! LOL

16

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Don't blame me, I didn't vote for any of them. 22/07/2007 07:50:34

Can't deny climate change, as climate is always changing. Just contrast this year with last.

I firmly pedict that next month will be wetter, drier, the same, different. The same can be forcast about many of the postings here!

17

GD,

Glasgow 22/07/2007 08:05:22

Terrible disruption these people are facing.
I don't know if there's a long term solution other than demolishing buidings on the floodplains and rebuilding elsewhere.
We in Scotland and elsewhere should take heed, if you own a property below, at, or just above sea level, sell it while you have the chance.

18

pehman,

sussex 22/07/2007 08:06:13

I've just seen the forcast for today, looks like its South Scotlands turn. The clouds are thousands of feet thick, so lots of water in them.

19

jdships,

22/07/2007 08:13:42

3
What a sad person you are .
These people are human beings who are suffering terribly !
Get a life

20

Transparent?,

Scotland 22/07/2007 08:32:16

#3.
You epitomize the sickness of the SNP.

21

Jim P,

22/07/2007 08:49:12

#1 and #20

FFS read the rules:

"No trolling. Trolling is used to describe a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting the members of a Forum. Posts of this nature are disruptive and say deliberately provocative things just to stir up trouble. It's not polite so please don't do it."

Today the Sunday Herald says on all articles:
"Thanks for your comments - this feedback is now closed"

22

Jim P,

Netherlands 22/07/2007 08:56:37

#17 GD, Glasgow / 9:05am

Help ma boab, we're about 4 metres below sea level.

The truth is that the planning authorities have not properly assessed the risks of building on flood plains, the developers have built wherever they can grab the land, insufficient drainage has been provided for run-off from all the new housing and tarmac, the agri-business has continued to "improve" farmland by drainage schemes that remove water too quickly into rivers, and house buyers and their legal advisers have not been sufficiently attentive to the location.

#13 - why is their any need to mention "global" warming, when its pishin doon in Perth.

23

The Maltese Falcon,

Malta 22/07/2007 08:59:22

#17 GD Trying to sell a property that is situated below or just above sea level is going to be problematic in itself as everyone, unless they are from Mars, is now aware of the dangers of owning and living in such propertys which are at risk of flooding.

We could do with some of the rain that the UK is having here in Malta where it has'nt rained for months and is unlikely to until around about October.

24

fred bloggs,

22/07/2007 09:09:54
25

Jim P,

Netherlands 22/07/2007 09:17:58

#24 fred

Scaremongering by journos who need to sell papers.
Says the article:
"Dramatic flips in the climate have occurred in the past but none has happened since the development of complex human societies and civilisation, which are unlikely to survive the same sort of environmental changes if they occurred now."

Humans (and polar bears) will adopt whatever survival strategies are required, or they will become extinct. Polar bears developed only 200,000 years ago, and smaller bears became extinct. If a new ice age arrives, people will move south.

26

John M,

Melbourne, Australia 22/07/2007 09:33:59

Sorry, I've been side-tracked today.

Those forecasts that were made months ahead came from http://www.weatheraction.com/.

If you swallowed the guff from Lockwood about the sun having no significant influence on climate since 1985 then maybe Weather Action will at least make you question that claim.

27

bill1,

22/07/2007 09:48:54

Decades of non-existent water management, unpreparedness in spite of accurate warnings, incompetent crisis management.

Same as last time and same as next time.

It would be nice to have central and local governments that take an interest in the people who support them.

28

Chikderic,

Inverness 22/07/2007 10:17:40

The only long-range forecast for July that I have seen forecast average rainfall and above average temperatures!!! Just how wrong can they get? And they get paid for it!!!!! How that railway worker threatened with a manslaughter charge for making a mistake must wish he worked as a weather forecaster or, in fact, at any civil service job, where you can make huge mistakes and still get your pay and pension.

29

tuna,

renfrew 22/07/2007 11:14:27

the climatic variations keep surprising us as resulting frae the global heating,may god save oor country

30

Scot in Exile,

Adelaide, Australia 22/07/2007 11:15:43

#26# Cheers, John.

31

Jim P,

Netherlands 22/07/2007 11:17:51

#31

tuna in renfrew? - more evidence of global warming!

32

Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 22/07/2007 11:32:22

After the widespread flooding in the North of England
the government offered local authorities a paltry £14 million to assist in the clear up?
Now that the same disaster has befallen the South of England, the P.M. has promised local authorities in Middle England one hundred percent relief on the cost of the clear up, without specifying a total figure?
It appears there is a marked difference in treatment between the North and South of England?

33

bill1,

22/07/2007 12:02:04

32. Lachie Todd

" After the widespread flooding in the North of England
the government offered local authorities a paltry £14 million to assist in the clear up?
Now that the same disaster has befallen the South of England, the P.M. has promised local authorities in Middle England one hundred percent relief on the cost of the clear up, without specifying a total figure?
It appears there is a marked difference in treatment between the North and South of England?"

There always has been in my lifetime. We can drown for all the Southerners care. You think you're badly served in Scotland - you don't know the half of it.

34

GD,

Glasgow 22/07/2007 12:05:15

#23 TMF,
Yes that's true but as far as I know you don't yet have to declare your property's height above sea level on schedules when selling.
It's bound to come though, I'm sure people will demand to know. It would certainly be my (new) main concern before putting pen to paper.

35

Comerscroft,

22/07/2007 13:19:37

Just watching BBC 24hr news, where they are showing the major Drinking-water Treatment Plant at Tewksbury has been completely flooded. This means that no fresh water is available in Tewksbury, Gloucester and Cheltenham will shortly have no safe water, and for some time to come.

Then there is the impossibility of getting bottled water out to people.

Goodness knows what is happening with the drainage.

The follow on from this will be epidemics of water-borne disease.

Seeing the petrol station under water with oil pollution too.


Seems unbelievable in this day and age.


Like it or not, we are ALL affected. Fields are flooded, so the harvest will be non-existent and the price of food will rocket.

36

jennie,

inverness 22/07/2007 13:36:08

#22 Jim - you're right. Whether or not climate change is man-made, flooding has been exacerbated by building on flood plains and building on agricultural land which previously absorbed a lot of runodd. Also making things worse are concreted front gardens to create parking spaces, cutting down trees which help to drain land, putting in flood defences involving strengthening river banks instead of allowing them to flood over their normal plains......nobody seems to have read John MacPhee's book about the Mississippi and the Army Corps of Engineers' endless, fruitless battle to control the river. Or if they have read it, they have failed to understand it.

If government cares, they could right away tax second homes and holiday homes now; return these homes to the housing market and stop the need for new homes to be built on low lying land. Follow the Scandinavian model and build timber homes on rocky outcrops. Unfortunately big property developers' margins would be affected so it won't happen.

#38 - yes, homegrown food will be short this winter so more will be imported, food prices will rise and supermarkets' profits will go through the roof.The rich get richer and the poor will suffer.

37

jennie,

inverness 22/07/2007 13:36:36

runoff, not runodd, of course. spelcheck? what spellcheck?

38

fred bloggs,

22/07/2007 13:41:56

25. It's not journos. It's NASA scientists.

39

Eric1,

Ben The Hoose 22/07/2007 15:31:26

According to government ministers if it is hotter/colder/drier/wetter/or just the same (delete as appropriate) this is all down to global warming!!

40

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22/07/2007 15:53:49
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41

GD,

Glasgow 22/07/2007 16:13:05

#43 Mmmmm interesting......... meanwhile back on Earth

42

morris,

22/07/2007 16:57:30

1
MY grilfriend (who is from Meresyside) says that in England they have built on the flood plains so much that water cannot drain away. This was known for years and was inevitable.Thats the real problem. The climate changes have not helped of course and speeded up what was always going to happen anyway and they knew it for years.
WE are fortunate to live in a remote and mountainous landscape here in Scotland,but the comments I find insulting and out of order are starting with no1.
What kind of moron gets on here at 1 57am to post an anti SNP comment and starts with No reponses yet , when his comment is the first.
If thats not unjustifieed stupidity in a comment than I dont know where to look for a better example!

43

morris,

Edinburgh 22/07/2007 17:02:22

43
I think thats fair comment,but bear in mind the size of the US population not to mention topography,which compared to Canada does give her a big advantage. Canada excells in some sports and does pretty well in most and is at least par for her population. I think your comments about the USA are fair,and you are possibly a bit modest about Canada,not a crime exactly is it?

44

morris,

Edinburgh 22/07/2007 17:19:28

20
The comment (whatever it was )belongs to the individual who posted it ,and if you had any decency ,you would not even attempt to discredit a party who are NOT in favour of such comments, any more than you are.The SNP has no time for racism,tribalism, sectarianism etc but there are many Unionist's,notably Labour party supporters ,who would tar the SNP with any brush they can lay their hands on, because they know that their own Unionist parties lied to the people for thirty years ,and have no sensible arguments left!
The real question is why do so many support the " LABOUR PARTY" when it no longer exists! It was replaced by NEW LABOUR (a watered down Tory Party) and there is now a bigger divide between rich and poor ,and thats not SNP propaganda! Your own Westminster government statistics show it clear as a transparency can be!
There are racists in Scotland .There are racists in England. They are no more identifiable with the SNP here than they are with any other party,unless you desire them to be so.

45

Ms. Optimistic,

ND 22/07/2007 17:39:37

bill1 is a nasty liberal troll.

46

zigzag,

Canada 22/07/2007 18:44:11

Gordon row the boat ashore

Halleluh

Gordon row the boat ashore

....

47

Not A Unionist or Nationalist,

Dundee 22/07/2007 19:05:29

Morris - have you had a sense of humour bypass - or did you not read the last part of my post - irony is obviously lost on you.

48

Waspy100,

22/07/2007 22:32:54

Dont know about you lot and some of the senseless comments but we are on a flood alert down here in Abingdon.
Half the town is flooded and we are on a flood alert I think with where we live we will be next in the next "12 to 24" hours.
Its OK for people to say "your insured" but the work we have put into the house in the last 18 months with new doors, flooring, wall panelling,decorating,carpets, furniture etc, etc.
Will break our hearts for a bit but then others are worse off as it has already happened to them and at least we have had a bit of warning.
See what happens tomorrow we may miss the worst but im not holding my breath.
Waspy

49

Shamus,

Glasgow 22/07/2007 22:54:17

Hello Waspy. Hope everthing turns out ok. Have been flooded myself. Nothing to do with insurance. Just a bloody nervous heartache, then cleaning up the mess. Yes we have a lot of silly Scots. Our turn will come eventually and then the winging and complaining. What is funny is that people are starting to blame the politicians for the rain.Real nutters the human race. Rats and mice get out they can predict it.

50

Waspy100,

22/07/2007 23:34:23

#52
Slainte

51

Rab haw,

Edinburgh 22/07/2007 23:46:12

I am totally puzzled ! Why? no comments from AM2 associating what is going to be a continual problem, on us Scots voting SNP, then maybe he is on the Harry Potter theme! seriously This is maybe a warning that instead of wasting billions on Domes, Trams and GAMES we as well as our friend south should maybe think of spending a little more on our antiquated drainage systems.

52

siusaidh,

22/07/2007 23:55:25

Could we not try and do something good with all that rain?
Try to capture it and use it ....councils could use it for watering, public toiletts etc....

53

Rab haw,

Edinburgh 23/07/2007 00:00:46

Last year we watched program after program on how low the rivers were in parts of England and how serious the levels of the water were in various parts of the country Now we get rain, normal one would think in the UK and all of a sudden catastrophy everywhere. WHY why don't we question the developers, the local authorities , the town planners etc .,WHO, apart from those just making a fast buck, decides where it is suitable to build homes.

54

The Wizard,

OZ 23/07/2007 01:04:41

#26 John M

Could you possibly let us know-to the day- when the drought stricken farmers here in OZ are likely to get some rain.

#7GC
Adelaide? My God, you must be kidding. Adelaide lost the F1 Grand Prix because the drivers found it so boring they fell asleep at the wheel.
Western Australia is the only place worth living over here. This is the state that keeps Australia solvent.

55

Katty,

Bannockburn 23/07/2007 02:06:21

We care that these people are in an awful mess, I would hate to have to endure such conditions. The S>N>P are sorry for each and every one.

However, yeh u were waiting on that, The Perth floods and other places flooded in Scotland got very little cover newswise.

Also no cover of the complaint against the BBC Newsnight, being upheld. Paxton lied about The Scots Firms who returned his question. said 48 out of 50 were against Independance. that is also important to Scots.

We just want equal cover of important news, no-one wants Flooding in England or any other land
God bless them.

56

Katty,

Bannockburn 23/07/2007 02:14:06

#37

I was asked 5 years ago for distance from the nearest river or waterway, for insurance. U can look for that if u chance ur insurance

57

Katty,

Bannockburn 23/07/2007 02:15:04

Change nor chance sorry #37


 

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